not yet, sent the thread to know what was the thoughts before doing anything.
Romain Manni-Bucau @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> | Blog <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <https://github.com/rmannibucau> | LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Tomitriber <http://www.tomitribe.com> | JavaEE Factory <https://javaeefactory-rmannibucau.rhcloud.com> 2016-05-19 22:09 GMT+02:00 Daniel Cunha <daniels...@gmail.com>: > Ok. > > Do we have some issues for it? > > On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 11:10 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau < > rmannibu...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Current api/"spi like" is not friendly and cli dep is often an issue for > > not standalone case. > > Le 18 mai 2016 23:12, "Daniel Cunha" <daniels...@gmail.com> a écrit : > > > > > Hi Romain, > > > > > > yep, I like the way how cli was implemented in BatchEE. Sounds really > > good > > > and I don't have opposition to follow the same way. > > > When you say: Technical issues. What do see like a problem? > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau < > > rmannibu...@gmail.com > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > 2016-05-18 19:44 GMT+02:00 Daniel Cunha <daniels...@gmail.com>: > > > > > > > > > We (Me and Hildeberto) proposed some ideas (in Clojure), but out of > > the > > > > box > > > > > some time ago. But wasn't well accept, I guess. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes clojure is an issue for 2 reasons as main interface: > > > > - its syntax is not user friendly (don't get me wrong, just means > > peolpe > > > > expects a sh like syntax for a cli) > > > > - its dependencies we should avoid IMO > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 for your idea. > > > > > I really think that we need improve CLI. I see some tips about it > on > > > > > twitter (https://twitter.com/rdebusscher/status/718081027604873216 > ) > > :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yep, we also can check what we did in BatchEE ( > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-batchee/tree/master/tools/cli/src/main/java/org/apache/batchee/cli > > > > ). > > > > It is an annotation based impl on top of [cli] but the interesting > part > > > is > > > > not much the API but the fact it is user extensible and it also > allows > > to > > > > run small tasks like batches easily (start, deploy, run, shutdown). > > > > > > > > The potential is huge but first we need to get rid of the technical > > > issues > > > > I think. > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 10:04 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau < > > > > > rmannibu...@gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi guys, > > > > > > > > > > > > Spoke with Andy and Jean-Louis and seems we could make our CLI a > > bit > > > > > > better. > > > > > > > > > > > > So let's write down some proposal and then see 1. if we go this > > path, > > > > 2. > > > > > > how > > > > > > > > > > > > ## Proposal > > > > > > > > > > > > Make our CLI richer in term of feature and commands and more user > > > > > friendly. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bonus: getting rid of commons-cli would allow us to have a better > > > > > > dependency management than today for all shade flavors we have. > > > > > > > > > > > > ## Technically > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. We can replace [cli] by our light backbone or a shade > > (minimized) > > > - > > > > > and > > > > > > then optimize/clean our shades (tomee embedded *) > > > > > > 2. We move commands glue code from openejb-core to openejb-cli > (or > > > > > whatever > > > > > > other modules) - to ensure it is reusable and easy to test > > > > > > 3. We change the registration process to use a standard > > > ServiceLoader? > > > > > > (Easier for users to extend it/more natural) > > > > > > 4. We use annotations instead of properties (same as previous) > > > > > > 5. add alias support (typically Andy brings "cipher" vs "cypher" > > > > handling > > > > > > which is a common mistake) > > > > > > 6. add matching feature: "./tomee.sh cip" is not ambiguous so we > > can > > > > > match > > > > > > cipher command (algo is: if not ambiguous execute otherwise fail) > > > > > > > > > > > > There are probably more doors open but that's the start I > see/have > > in > > > > > mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > ## Commands > > > > > > > > > > > > Currently available: > > > > > > > > > > > > - cipher: encode/decode a string to use with a PasswordCipher > > > > > > - effectivetomee: list the loaded tomee.xml (actual one, not the > > file > > > > > > itself) > > > > > > - properties: dump tomee server configuration (same as effective > > > tomee, > > > > > > that's the internal model) > > > > > > - setters: list field usable for a class (to use with > <Resource/>) > > > > > > - start: start the server (delegates to catalina.sh) > > > > > > - stop: stop the server (delegates to catalina.sh) > > > > > > - deploy: deploy an app > > > > > > - undeploy: undeploy the app > > > > > > > > > > > > Note: deploy/undeploy commands are to rework a bit to be useful I > > > guess > > > > > > (the current "id" is the path and is not natural IMO) > > > > > > > > > > > > We can add: > > > > > > > > > > > > - add-resource (add in tomee.xml a resource and deploy it if > > running) > > > > > > - modify-resource (change a property) > > > > > > - add/remove-property > > > > > > - jmx-attribute > > > > > > - jmx-operation > > > > > > - ... > > > > > > > > > > > > ## Next steps > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Please say you think it is a good track or just an idea we can > > > kill > > > > > > (happens ;)). > > > > > > 2. If we are rather positive about that I think it is a good > > > > opportunity > > > > > to > > > > > > get newcomers to TomEE. Part of the code is aside tomee (cli one) > > and > > > > the > > > > > > commands themself are done or almost there for most of the ones I > > > > listed. > > > > > > It just needs some integration and clean up so that's a great way > > to > > > > get > > > > > > familiar with TomEE internals and model. That said I'm super > happy > > to > > > > > help > > > > > > anyone or code some part if needed. > > > > > > > > > > > > Finally this track would allow us to: > > > > > > > > > > > > - own the CLI code and dependencies making us controlling our > deps > > on > > > > the > > > > > > whole chain (for shades and light deployments) > > > > > > - make our CLI more user friendly > > > > > > - open the door to custom commands more easily > > > > > > - rework the commands to add some missing ones > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Romain Manni-Bucau > > > > > > @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> | Blog > > > > > > <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github < > > > > > > https://github.com/rmannibucau> | > > > > > > LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Tomitriber > > > > > > <http://www.tomitribe.com> | JavaEE Factory > > > > > > <https://javaeefactory-rmannibucau.rhcloud.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Daniel Cunha > > > > > https://twitter.com/dvlc_ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Daniel Cunha > > > https://twitter.com/dvlc_ > > > http://www.tomitribe.com > > > http://www.tomitribe.io > > > > > > > > > -- > Daniel Cunha > https://twitter.com/dvlc_ > http://www.tomitribe.com > http://www.tomitribe.io >
