> On Mar 27, 2021, at 3:54 PM, Alex The Rocker <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Do you you really mean a Guess Member, like in
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Guess_Who ?

I did not, but since it results in a music reference I'll let it stand (and do 
a windmill or two)  :)


-David

> Le sam. 27 mars 2021 à 23:45, David Blevins <[email protected]> a écrit 
> :
>> 
>>> On Mar 26, 2021, at 9:16 AM, Rob Tompkins <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> 
>>> I’ve been sitting in the Apache <—> Jakarta EE relationship manager seat 
>>> for a little bit now, and I’m curious if you guys think that you’d ever 
>>> want to use Jakarta EE logos on the site as having satisfied the TCKs or 
>>> something along those lines? If so it would be prudent for me to minimally 
>>> go down the road of guest membership to the Eclipse foundation so that we 
>>> had the IP access to be able to use such messaging.
>>> 
>>> On the other hand, a considerable number of people are skeptical of the 
>>> optics of the ASF joining the Eclipse foundation even as a guest member, 
>>> and for the most part think that the benefit gained from such a membership 
>>> would be not worth the effort. Note, the Eclipse folks are particularly 
>>> excited about the potential of us becoming members, but I would think 
>>> that’s because of the optics as well.
>>> 
>>> Figured I would minimally ping this dev list to see what folks thought 
>>> because as it stands right now. I doubt we want to become members.
>> 
>> Thanks, Rob.
>> 
>> Note this also ties back to back to the ability to get listed on the Jakarta 
>> EE Compatible Products page[1].  Only members can get listed.  From a TomEE 
>> perspective, we have a few options here.  One option is for Apache to join 
>> as a Guess Member, the other is for Strategic Members (companies) to list 
>> third-party open source implementations they support (in this case TomEE).
>> 
>> I'll explain both options and start a vote aimed to wrap up April 14th, so 
>> you have that data point in hand by the filing deadline for the April 21st 
>> board meeting.  That should ensure you're getting input from more than just 
>> me.
>> 
>> For community expectation management: The recommendation Rob makes to the 
>> board will factor in all the data he's collected and not be exclusively 
>> dictated by this project.
>> 
>> 
>> -David
>> 
>> https://jakarta.ee/compatibility/
>> 

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