David,

You stated, "In practice, I don't believe anyone actually used it and we do not 
heavily test this technique."

Until recently, we heavily relied on the drop in war.  It was our main source 
of obtaining TomEE.  In the recent months we have moved to the full version of 
TomEE.  It was quite nice to be able to have a base TomCat installation, then 
when someone needed it, we just dropped in the war.  This reduced our overhead. 
 However, the classes did not get loaded the same.  That lead us to moving to 
the full version of TomEE with embedded Tomcat.

Rod. 




On 4/17/21, 6:06 PM, "David Blevins" <david.blev...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Digging up this old discussion thread on removing the tomee-foo-webapp 
modules.
    
    At the moment our TCK progress is essentially halted due to issues created 
by the complexity of these webapps and how we build the server.
    
    The crux of the issue is that we're getting duplicate jars in our war files 
which causes the TCK runs to encounter startup errors and fail before any tests 
are run.  Here's an example:
        
        $ curl -O 
https://repository.apache.org/content/groups/snapshots/org/apache/tomee/apache-tomee/8.0.7-SNAPSHOT/apache-tomee-8.0.7-20210417.052409-158-plume.zip
 
        
        $ unzip -l apache-tomee-8.0.7-20210417.052409-158-plume.zip | grep 
cxf-core
          1431799  04-17-2021 05:23   
apache-tomee-plume-8.0.7-SNAPSHOT/lib/cxf-core-3.5.0-SNAPSHOT.jar
          1431799  04-17-2021 05:23   
apache-tomee-plume-8.0.7-SNAPSHOT/lib/cxf-core-3.5.0-20210417.035622-203.jar
        
    There are duplicates of basically any SNAPSHOT dependency.  Sometimes 
there'll be duplicates even of openejb-core.  I've checked the sha256 hashes on 
the duplicate jars like the above and in most cases they are different, meaning 
we're getting two different builds of the SNAPSHOT showing up.
    
    When we go to run the TCK we encounter issues as there are parts of the TCK 
that are standalone (no server) and we need to construct a classpath of 
specific jars.  That will fail like so:
    
        Caused by: java.lang.Exception: Found more than one file to be included 
into path; dir=target/apache-tomee-plume-8.0.7-SNAPSHOT/lib, 
includes=cxf-rt-rs-client-*.jar, excludes=null; found: 
/Users/dblevins/work/apache/tomee-tck/target/apache-tomee-plume-8.0.7-SNAPSHOT/lib/cxf-rt-rs-client-3.5.0-20210417.035728-202.jar:/Users/dblevins/work/apache/tomee-tck/target/apache-tomee-plume-8.0.7-SNAPSHOT/lib/cxf-rt-rs-client-3.5.0-SNAPSHOT.jar
            at sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance0 (Native 
Method)
            at sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance 
(NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.java:62)
            at sun.reflect.DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance 
(DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.java:45)
            at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstance (Constructor.java:423)
            at org.codehaus.groovy.reflection.CachedConstructor.invoke 
(CachedConstructor.java:77)
            at 
org.codehaus.groovy.reflection.CachedConstructor.doConstructorInvoke 
(CachedConstructor.java:71)
            at 
org.codehaus.groovy.runtime.callsite.ConstructorSite$ConstructorSiteNoUnwrap.callConstructor
 (ConstructorSite.java:84)
            at 
org.codehaus.groovy.runtime.callsite.CallSiteArray.defaultCallConstructor 
(CallSiteArray.java:52)
            at 
org.codehaus.groovy.runtime.callsite.AbstractCallSite.callConstructor 
(AbstractCallSite.java:192)
            at 
org.codehaus.groovy.runtime.callsite.AbstractCallSite.callConstructor 
(AbstractCallSite.java:200)
            at openejb.tck.util.PathBuilder.append (PathBuilder.groovy:89)
    
    What's worse is that this issue seems somewhat random.  Sometimes you get 
away with no duplicate jars.
    
    Additionally, if you need to rebuild the server binary (say plume) to test 
a one line change it takes quite a while because we need to build several 
binaries first.  The tomee/tomee-webapp/ module builds a war that feeds into 
the tomee/tomee-plume-webapp/ module which feeds into tomee/apache-tomee/ which 
produces all the actual zips, tars.  Here's how big the target directories are 
for those three modules after a build:
    
        $ du -sh tomee/tomee-webapp/target/ tomee/tomee-plume-webapp/target/ 
tomee/apache-tomee/target/
         37M    tomee/tomee-webapp/target/
        206M    tomee/tomee-plume-webapp/target/
        1.1G    tomee/apache-tomee/target/
    
    Overall we produce 3.3GB in our build.  To get your one-line change up to 
the internet for a TCK run, you need to up load an insane amount of binaries.  
On an EC2 box with extremely good internet connection it takes about 2 hours to 
do a snapshot deploy.
    
    A snapshot that is broken and unusable.
    
    I think I can fix our duplicate jar issue and get things working, but FYI 
that doesn't really fix our build.  We'll need to do more serious work to get 
that in shape.
    
    
    -David
    
    
    > On May 23, 2019, at 1:28 AM, David Blevins <david.blev...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
    > 
    > We have a bit of unused legacy with regards to the following webapps:
    > 
    >    34M tomee-microprofile-webapp-8.0.0-M3.war
    >    58M tomee-plume-webapp-8.0.0-M3.war
    >    51M tomee-plus-webapp-8.0.0-M3.war
    >   6.6M tomee-webaccess-8.0.0-M3.war
    >    32M tomee-webapp-8.0.0-M3.war
    > 
    > From the early days of TomEE we created a "drop-in webapp" version for 
plain Tomcat users.  This was largely for convenience to people who may have 
had to use a stock Tomcat in cloud or other environments.  The idea being they 
could upgrade their Tomcat to a TomEE by dropping in the war.
    > 
    > In practice, I don't believe anyone actually used it and we do not 
heavily test this technique.  There is a known limitation that if your webapp 
starts before the "tomee" webapp, the integration will have to do a separate 
undeploy/redeploy of your webapp which is clunky.  As well the magic required 
to load the tomee webapp's contents into the Tomcat server classloader is 
obtuse and complicates the integration.
    > 
    > We should discuss removing them from TomEE 8.0.
    > 
    > There'd be a bit of work involved, but it would trim a good 181MB from 
the release process.  We have to upload that 181MB twice; once to Nexus and 
once to the Apache Mirror System staging repo.  So in the end it reduces the 
upload overhead by 362MB, which is a big deal if you're on a network not 
blazingly fast.
    > 
    > Thoughts?
    > 
    > -- 
    > David Blevins
    > http://twitter.com/dblevins
    > http://www.tomitribe.com
    > 
    
    

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