While GitHub actions shouldn’t be able to commit anything, they can create a PR 
that can then be reviewed and merged by a committer. Apache camel uses this to 
good effect: they have far more complicated things than BOMs generated.

David Jencks 

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> On Feb 9, 2022, at 6:40 AM, Zowalla, Richard 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I think, that the inconvience originates from the fact, that one has to
> conduct a quick build w/o tests after changing a simple version string
> - even if one does not expect any compile issues and just want to see
> the impact in a CI/CD environment
> 
> The current "generate in the build" is tied to "package".
> 
> 
>> Am Mittwoch, dem 09.02.2022 um 15:33 +0100 schrieb Jean-Louis Monteiro:
>> Thanks David for the extra infra information. That makes the
>> automation a
>> bit harder indeed.
>> 
>> Let's keep the "generate in the build" as it is today and see if we
>> can
>> remember to push and when I say we, I mean "I" 😀
>> 
>> --
>> Jean-Louis Monteiro
>> http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
>> http://www.tomitribe.com
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 3:15 PM David Blevins <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> The trick is that Apache doesn’t have any bot accounts that we
>>> could use to
>>> do commits to master.  So there really isn’t any way to use
>>> Jenkins, GitHub
>>> Actions, etc.
>>> 
>>> The limited functionality Apache does have for committing files is
>>> for
>>> website generation, but it is setup to only work for branches
>>> called
>>> “asf-site” (or something like that) and works from only one
>>> specific
>>> Jenkins node.
>>> 
>>> The best we could do is create a bot that made a PR one of us had
>>> to merge
>>> and/or get this to be done in the build and we ensure we remember
>>> to commit
>>> it. (We could potentially do both so there is a convenient backup
>>> if we
>>> forget to do the commit ourselves before we push).
>>> 
>>> -David
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 8:51 AM Jean-Louis Monteiro <
>>> [email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> We have discussed many times with Richard on Slack mainly around
>>>> this
>>>> topic. But I wanted to discuss it over here and have some
>>>> brainstorming.
>>>> 
>>>> We have had BOM files for quite a while. To avoid the pain to
>>>> update and
>>>> maintain them, David created a script to generate them. All good.
>>>> 
>>>> The problem comes when one is updating or adding or removing a
>>> dependency.
>>>> And I must apologize because it happened to me pretty much every
>>>> single
>>>> time. Richard has been looking after the build and fixing my
>>>> garbage by
>>>> generating again the BOM files to commit them. Thanks for that.
>>>> 
>>>> We discussed an approach to generate them in the build so Jenkins
>>>> is
>>> always
>>>> happy. It works but it has bigger side effects in my opinion.
>>>> 
>>>> 1/ Jenkins does not commit and then it does not fix my garbage
>>>> 2/ the snapshots the user uses don't reflect what the CI is
>>>> testing which
>>>> deserves the purpose.
>>>> 3/ the mess is hidden and when cutting the release there is a
>>>> risk for
>>> the
>>>> BOM files to not be up to date
>>>> 
>>>> I think we should revert this and at least let the build to fail
>>>> so we
>>> can
>>>> fix it and maintain the BOM files.
>>>> 
>>>> I have also investigated Github actions. We could also create a
>>>> couple of
>>>> Github actions
>>>> 
>>>> - to generate the BOM files AND commit them to git if they
>>>> changed. So
>>> they
>>>> are always up to date and the CI system runs on what the user is
>>>> using
>>>> 
>>>> - check file headers to make sure they have ASLv2 header. This is
>>>> a
>>> common
>>>> error and CI will fail with RAT/checkstyle/PMD in the sanity
>>>> checks build
>>>> 
>>>> - do some updates on the website if needed
>>>> 
>>>> We could start with the BOM and look at the headers. They should
>>>> be
>>> fairly
>>>> easy to handle and bring some immediate value.
>>>> 
>>>> What do you think?
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Jean-Louis Monteiro
>>>> http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
>>>> http://www.tomitribe.com
>>>> 
>>> --
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>>> 

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