Short clarifications: - This is _not_ a vote. It is a discussion thread to get opinions / different views :-) - I am not the chair of TomEE ;-)
On a technical note: - We would still deliver TomEE MicroProfile with all its features. > Am 15.04.2025 um 10:10 schrieb Alex The Rocker <alex.m3...@gmail.com>: > > Hello Richard, > > [-1] for removing Microprofile from OOB TomEE 10.* > > Indeed: > 1. From a semantic versionning standpoint, it is not possible to > introduce a breaking change, so the earliest possible release to do > such major change would be TomEE 11 > 2. Competing applications servers (Payara, OpenLiberty, JBoss,...) > seem to have OOTB MicroProfile support > 3. MicroProfile is often quoted as "the incubator for potential new > specifications [of Jakarta EE...]" (quoted from > https://blog.sebastian-daschner.com/entries/microprofiles-role-jakarta-ee). > > This last point is the key reason why I disagree with removing > MicroProfile from TomEE: enthousiatics developers willing to take > advantage of those ahead-of-time features brought by MicroProfile will > be less eager to use TomEE if MicroProfile isn't anymore part of it. > They most likely they'll fall into other application servers' hands. > > That said, I welcome your initiative to cast such vote : your are > playing your role as TomEE's PMC chairman, which is to inspire the > future of this great community, with the democratic way to exchange on > ideas. I will love seeying counter-arguments to my reply, and I'm sure > that the more answers this proposal will get (whatever the final > outcome will be), the healtiest TomEE community will be! > > Thanks, > Alex > > Le lun. 14 avr. 2025 à 10:07, Richard Zowalla <r...@apache.org> a écrit : >> >> Hi all, >> >> Starting with TomEE 10.0.x, we've included MicroProfile 6.0 along with all >> the necessary OpenTelemetry classes and libraries. >> >> From what I've seen, many libraries—such as JDBC drivers—automatically >> enable OTEL features when the relevant libraries are present on the >> classpath, regardless of any MicroProfile configuration settings. >> >> This puts us in a tricky position: we’re often forced to stick with older >> library versions because upgrading from MP 6.0 to 6.1 tends to introduce >> breaking changes. Moreover, MP 7 can only be supported once CXF provides a >> compatible client, which is currently being targeted for Jakarta EE 11. >> >> Given this, I’d like to propose dropping the (de-activated) MicroProfile >> support from the Web, Plus, and Plume distributions—meaning we would no >> longer include the MP-related JARs by default. Instead, we could offer an >> optional script-based approach (e.g., via a zip/tar.gz package) that users >> can apply to add the MicroProfile flavor to Web/Plus/Plume as needed. >> >> Since this would be a breaking change, we could aim to roll it out starting >> with version 10.1.x. >> >> WDYT? Any thoughts? >> >> Gruß >> Richard
