Hello Markus,

So how would you sort the priorities ? Starting with the 4 components
directly written in TomEE ?

Thanks
Skander

On Thu, Sep 18, 2025 at 10:17 AM Markus Jung <ju...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hey Skander,
>
> nice, that ticket is already a great start! I’ll create a 11.0.0 release
> in jira and assign that ticket to it.
>
> Speaking about hibernate there has been a thread about in already in early
> 2023 with some mixed opinions when TomEE 10 was still in the making (
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/5gzmhjsmhndmncdh70l82q0fnmxlm865). IMO we
> should probably start another seperate discussion thread for this topic
> when we’re ready to worry about our JPA/Jakarta Data implementation.
>
> Regarding MP I think it just has a minimum requirement of EE 10, so we can
> of course use newer versions with EE 11. However IIRC we were bound to 6.1
> because CXF postponed updating their MP Rest Client implementation to
> 4.2.x. Speaking for myself I would not put a too high priority on it just
> yet, but we should keep it in mind and maybe try to move to the latest
> possible version in the process of creating TomEE 11.
>
>
> Thanks
> Markus
>
> > On 18. Sep 2025, at 08:34, Skander Soltane <mskandersolt...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I’ve created this ticket <
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMEE-4530>
> > and I hope it’s clear enough. Please let me know if anything needs
> > improvement or if I overlooked a component.
> >
> > Could someone create a new release version (11.0.0) and update the fix
> > version of the ticket accordingly?
> >
> > I’m not entirely sure if this thread is meant for discussing the future
> of
> > TomEE 11, but since there are some important decisions to make, I’ll
> > outline them here:
> >
> >   1.
> >
> >   Jakarta Data – Switching to Hibernate 7 could resolve this, especially
> >   since I couldn’t find any Apache implementation. Eclipse provides one,
> and
> >   I believe OpenLiberty is working on theirs. If we decide not to switch
> to
> >   Hibernate 7, we’ll need to provide our own implementation.
> >   2.
> >
> >   MicroProfile 7.0 – I didn’t mention any MP components in the ticket,
> but
> >   according to the MP website, even the latest version still refers to
> >   Jakarta EE 10 as the core platform. Does this mean it’s not yet
> compatible
> >   with EE 11? Should we first focus on upgrading Jakarta EE components,
> and
> >   then consider MicroProfile in a minor release of TomEE 11(e.g. 11.1.0)?
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> > Skander
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 1:07 PM Richard Zowalla <r...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Feel free to open that ticket in Jira. Every registered user should be
> >> allowed to create tickets.
> >>
> >> It should of course include the information provided by Markus as well
> as
> >> the required spec updates.
> >>
> >> Gruß
> >> Richard
> >>
> >>
> >>> Am 16.09.2025 um 13:54 schrieb Skander Soltane <
> >> mskandersolt...@gmail.com>:
> >>>
> >>> Hello Richard,
> >>>
> >>> This would be great.
> >>>
> >>> Can I volunteer to create this ticket or at least the content if I
> don’t
> >>> have the right access.
> >>>
> >>> I want to familiarize myself with the process of releasing a new major,
> >> so
> >>> I may ask some newbie questions.
> >>>
> >>> This is very exciting news, given that we have a new component :
> Jakarta
> >>> Data 1.0
> >>>
> >>> Skander
> >>>
> >>> On Tue 16 Sep 2025 at 13:48, Richard Zowalla <r...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>>
> >>>> I’d like to propose that we start work on a Jakarta EE 11 API shade in
> >>>> https://github.com/apache/tomee-jakartaee-api (create a ee10 branch,
> >> move
> >>>> main to e11 and do a first milestone release)
> >>>>
> >>>> This would give us a solid baseline to begin the upgrade path from
> TomEE
> >>>> 10.1.x to TomEE 11.
> >>>>
> >>>> In addition, we should create a ticket that documents all the
> >>>> specification differences between Jakarta EE 10 and 11. That way we
> can
> >>>> clearly see what changes are required and identify where updates or
> >>>> enhancements are needed in the TomEE codebase.
> >>>>
> >>>> This is not about TCKs at this stage (since that remains a larger
> >>>> challenge we couldn’t fully tackle with TomEE 10), but rather about
> >> getting
> >>>> a clear picture of the work ahead and aligning on the upgrade path.
> >>>>
> >>>> WDYT?
> >>>>
> >>>> Richard
> >>
> >>
>
>

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