I would love to start one for Traffic Ops.

Michael

On 11/13/19, 3:26 PM, "Gray, Jonathan" <[email protected]> wrote:

    I'd volunteer for one on install/upgrade/lab.infra/automation/ci/cd.

    Jonathan G


    On 11/13/19, 3:07 PM, "Jeremy Mitchell" <[email protected]> wrote:

        I'll bite. I'd like to start one for TP.

        On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 2:50 PM David Neuman <[email protected]>
        wrote:

        > @Robert Butts <[email protected]>, there is a process to create
        > more
        > mailing lists, Phil helped me do it to create summits@
        >
        > If someone is interested in starting our first working group, I will 
be
        > happy to help.
        >
        > On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 2:23 PM Robert O Butts <[email protected]> 
wrote:
        >
        > > +1 on Working Groups, the IETF also works by consensus, and WGs 
work very
        > > well there.
        > >
        > > They're particularly good for letting people subscribe to things 
they
        > care
        > > about, while ignoring things they don't. It'd be ideal if Apache 
will let
        > > us make arbitrary mailing lists. Not sure if that's possible?
        > >
        > >
        > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 2:18 PM Hoppal, Michael <
        > > [email protected]>
        > > wrote:
        > >
        > > > Agreed with Jeremy I would be +1 on both ideas.
        > > >
        > > > On 11/13/19, 2:07 PM, "ocket 8888" <[email protected]> wrote:
        > > >
        > > >     well, I actually like Dave's suggestion better than my own
        > > >
        > > >     On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 1:40 PM Jeremy Mitchell <
        > > [email protected]
        > > > >
        > > >     wrote:
        > > >
        > > >     > I like both of those ideas. Either a working group and 
someone
        > > > volunteers
        > > >     > to setup/lead the working group (ideally a committer or pmc
        > member)
        > > > or an
        > > >     > RM at the component level to help manage issues, milestones,
        > > > roadmaps, etc.
        > > >     >
        > > >     > Jeremy
        > > >     >
        > > >     > On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:27 PM Dave Neuman 
<[email protected]>
        > > > wrote:
        > > >     >
        > > >     > > I agree with Rob and Jonathan on this one.  I don't see a
        > reason
        > > > that
        > > >     > > committers cannot already gravitate toward a component, 
and I
        > > want
        > > > to
        > > >     > avoid
        > > >     > > adding any formal designation to community members 
outside of
        > the
        > > > defined
        > > >     > > Apache ones (contributor, commiter, and pmc).
        > > >     > > I think I would rather see us head in the direction of 
working
        > > > groups.
        > > >     > We
        > > >     > > can define working groups for each component (although I 
really
        > > > don't
        > > >     > think
        > > >     > > each component needs one) that is open to anyone.  The 
working
        > > > group can
        > > >     > > meet on a consistent interval and can use that time to 
complete
        > > the
        > > >     > > managerial tasks outlined above as well as discuss open 
PRs,
        > have
        > > > design
        > > >     > > conversations, etc.  Of course, any decision made in the
        > working
        > > > group
        > > >     > > meeting would then need to be brought back to the list.
        > Ideally
        > > > we would
        > > >     > > have a PMC member that takes the initiative to setup the
        > working
        > > > group,
        > > >     > but
        > > >     > > I don't see that as a hard requirement.  I am happy to 
help
        > > anyone
        > > > who is
        > > >     > > interested get a working group setup.
        > > >     > >
        > > >     > > --Dave
        > > >     > >
        > > >     > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 11:24 AM <[email protected]> 
wrote:
        > > >     > >
        > > >     > > > On Wed, 2019-11-13 at 10:57 -0700, Jeremy Mitchell 
wrote:
        > > >     > > > > Maybe component lead is not the right term?
        > > >     > > > >> ... hold the position for a defined amount of time 
...
        > > >     > > >
        > > >     > > > Since most of the responsibilities seem tied to 
releases,
        > maybe
        > > > we just
        > > >     > > > need sub-release-managers for the components? The main 
RM can
        > > > also fill
        > > >     > > > one of those positions as well as "main RM".
        > > >     > > >
        > > >     > > >
        > > >     > >
        > > >     >
        > > >
        > > >
        > > >
        > >
        >




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