I have a feeling with the introduction of flexible topologies (in addition
to or in place of our currently static topologies) -
https://github.com/apache/trafficcontrol/pull/4537 - we might need to
rethink how content invalidations (revalidations) work anyhow. Besides
that, I'm +1 on an ORT rewrite if not for anything more than the ~2700
lines of perl -
https://github.com/apache/trafficcontrol/blob/master/traffic_ops/ort/traffic_ops_ort.pl
-
are almost unmaintainable/inextensible.

Jeremy

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 5:16 PM Robert O Butts <[email protected]> wrote:

> >If you remove reval then everything goes back to tiered updates again.
>
> Good point. I think we can make this smart enough to apply what it can
> (everything but reval?) without waiting for parents. Definitely worth
> putting on the to-do list.
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 5:06 PM Derek Gelinas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I’m +1 on all of these. Unsure about package control, though. I suspect
> > that there are still some people using that one out in the world.
> >
> > I’ve never once heard of interactive mode being used, I like report mode
> > but I’m fine as long as there’s an alternative. Agree about reval mode.
> It
> > was made to solve a very specific scaling issue.  That said, it also
> opened
> > up caches to update configs free of having to wait for parents, so there
> > could be some value to be had, there.  If you remove reval then
> everything
> > goes back to tiered updates again.
> >
> > Derek
> >
> > > On Apr 9, 2020, at 6:57 PM, Robert O Butts <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > I've made a Blueprint proposing to rewrite ORT:
> > > https://github.com/apache/trafficcontrol/pull/4628
> > >
> > > If you have opinions on ORT, please read and provide feedback.
> > >
> > > In a nutshell, it's proposing to rewrite ORT in Go, in the "UNIX
> > > Philosophy" of small, "do one thing" apps.
> > >
> > > Importantly, the proposal **removes** the following ORT features:
> > >
> > > chkconfig - CentOS 7+ and SystemD don't use chkconfig, and moreover our
> > > default Profile runlevel is wrong and broken. But my knowledge of
> > > CentOS,SystemD,chkconfig,runlevels isn't perfect, if I'm mistaken about
> > > this and you're using ORT to set chkconfig, please let us know ASAP.
> > >
> > > ntpd - ORT today has code to set ntpd config and restart the ntpd
> > service.
> > > I have no idea why it was ever in charge of this, but this clearly
> seems
> > to
> > > be the system's job, not ORT or TC's.
> > >
> > > interactive mode - I asked around, and couldn't find anyone using this.
> > > Does anyone use it? And feel it's essential to keep in ORT? And also
> feel
> > > that the way this proposal breaks up the app so that it's easy to
> request
> > > and compare files before applying them isn't sufficient?
> > >
> > > reval mode - This was put in because ORT was slow. ORT in master now
> > takes
> > > 10-20s on our large CDN. Moreover, "reval" mode is no longer
> > significantly
> > > faster than just applying everything. Does anyone feel otherwise?
> > >
> > > report mode - The functionality here is valuable. But intention here is
> > to
> > > replace "ORT report mode" with a pipelined set of app calls or a script
> > to
> > > do the same thing. I.e. because it's "UNIX-Style" you can just
> > "ort-to-get
> > > | ort-make-configs | ort-diff".
> > >
> > > package installation - This is the biggest feature the proposal
> removes,
> > > and probably the most controversial. The thought is: this isn't
> something
> > > ORT or Traffic Control should be doing. The same thing that manages the
> > > physical machine and/or operating system -- whether that's Ansible,
> > Puppet,
> > > Chef, or a human System Administrator -- should be installing the OS
> > > packages for ATS and its plugins, just like it manages all the other
> > > packages on your system. ORT and TC should deploy configuration, not
> > > install things.
> > >
> > > So yeah, feedback welcome. Feel free to post it on the list here or the
> > > blueprint PR on github.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> >
> >
>

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