On Jan 3, 2017, at 5:20 PM, Jeff Elsloo 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hey Eric,

It sounds like the use case you're after is an RFC 1918 client
associated with a cache group whose caches are all unavailable for one
reason or another. Is that correct?
Yes, exactly.


I looked at the code a bit, and I think that we can make a minor
change to achieve the behavior you're looking for as long as you're
able to put your RFC 1918 ranges in the CZF.
Yes, we would want those ranges in the CZF. I can’t think of any other place 
they would go.


There's a small logic gap in the existing algorithm around cache
location selection and I think if we fix that (two line change), we
should be better off all around. I think the only time we'd ever want
to go to the geolocation provider is in the event of a miss on the
CZF, so as long as we have a hit there, we should find the cache group
closest to that hit location that has available caches. This would
automatically provide the "backup" cache group concept, and has the
added benefit of doing this selection dynamically based on the state
of the CDN.
Wow, thanks for picking up on this solution. Sounds like a strong possibility. 
I like that it can extend dynamically.



See this to get an idea of what I mean: http://apaste.info/u3PQo
https://github.com/apache/incubator-trafficcontrol/blob/249bd7504eeb7cc43402126f3719017e2475ad33/traffic_router/core/src/main/java/com/comcast/cdn/traffic_control/traffic_router/core/router/TrafficRouter.java#L536
Does this line set cacheLocation to the closest cache group with active caches 
on that DS?

What does networkNode.getLoc() actually return?

—Eric



Obviously we'd need to test this to ensure we don't break other functionality.
--
Thanks,
Jeff


On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 10:07 AM, Eric Friedrich (efriedri)
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
If all caches in the primary cache group are unavailable, our goal is to 
provide a backup routing policy for RFC1918 clients.

When client IP is an public Internet IP, the current backup policy is to assign 
the client to the geographically closest cache (Distance = MaxMind Geo Lat/Long 
- configured CG lat/long).

When client IP is an RFC1918 IP, the client would not have a maxmind geo-loc, 
so would fall back to the DS geo-miss lat long. We’d prefer some more granular 
control over where these clients are routed to, rather than a per-DS setting.


So with an RFC1918 client, the lookup process would be (step 3 is only addition)
1) Check CZF for a subnet match (and find a match for existing cache group). 
Assign client to CG
2) Check CG for available (online and associated w/ DS) servers. In this 
particular case, assume CG has no servers available to route the client to
3) Walk the CZF's list of backup CGs and perform the check from #2 for each CG. 
Use first server that is found
4) Assuming no server is found in #3, perform geo-location and find closest 
cache group. Use a server from the closest CG if one is found
4a) If geo-location returns null, use the DS’ default geo-miss location as the 
client location.

—Eric


On Dec 26, 2016, at 10:01 AM, Jan van Doorn 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hi Eric,

How does the backup list relate to the RFC1918-is-not-in-geo problem?

To get to a cachegroup you need to get a match in the coverage zone, I would 
think?

Rgds,
JvD

On Dec 22, 2016, at 12:28, Eric Friedrich (efriedri) 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

The current behavior of cache group selection works as follows
1) Look for a subnet match in CZF
2) Use MaxMind/Neustar for GeoLocation based on client IP. Choose closest cache 
group.
3) Use Delivery Service Geo-Miss Lat/Long. Choose closest cache group.


For deployments where IP addressing is primarily private (say RFC-1918 
addresses), client IP Geo Location (#2) is not useful.


We are considering adding another field to the Coverage Zone File that 
configures an ordered list of backup cache groups to try if the primary cache 
group does not have any available caches.

Example:

"coverageZones": {
"cache-group-01": {
 “backupList”: [“cache-group-02”, “cache-group-03”],
 "network6": [
   "1234:5678::\/64”,
   "1234:5679::\/64"],
 "network": [
   "192.168.8.0\/24",
   "192.168.9.0\/24”]
}

This configuration could also be part of the per-cache group configuration, but 
that would give less control over which clients preferred which cache groups. 
For example, you may have cache groups in LA, Chicago and NY. If the Chicago 
Cache group fails, you may want some of the Chicago clients to go to LA and 
some to go to NY. If the backup CG configuration is per-cg, we would not be 
able to control where clients are allocated.

Looking for opinions and comments on the above proposal, this is still in idea 
stage.

Thanks All!
Eric





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