I haven't go through many codes indeed, but TS-2143 make me sad, I love ATS because in most case, we can provide a working solution for your requirement. when you grow up, with big volumes, you will find out that ATS still work, and you may discover more features than your imagine. it is a good user experience compare to some other system, when you find out that the system builder is really 'user oriented'.
while we are still on the way to codes revolution, I really don't want we break that promise, turns ATS into another low quality codes just because we are free as in beer. most of our active committers are working for big company, with tons of good servers, but we have newbies everyday, they need a good start from any point, one easy start. ATS is a big monster compare to the others, why can't we make it nice for the freshmen? things I'd like to keep: 1, feature should be outlined, and should keep revolution in a user friendly way 2, provide basic system 'it just work' 3, user interface changing should get more review before we can release into public I need your input. thanks 08:11 <@ming_zym> on: TS-2143, I think that is big break on alarm feature, and the proxy/example_alarm_bin.sh is total unusable compare to the origin 08:12 <@ming_zym> I think you can not send out any message use it 08:12 <@ming_zym> right? 08:13 <@jpeach> ming_zym: I think swoop is expecting you to use your own script that has and email address embedded in it 08:14 <@ming_zym> but why that it is a step forward for our end users? 08:17 <@jpeach> I think that anyone using this would write their own script anyway 08:17 <@ming_zym> maybe I can find someone work on the scripts, but the origin provide 'it just work' 08:18 <@jpeach> you were using example_alarm_bin.sh script? 08:19 <@ming_zym> I don't think every new coming will hack on the core TS system. that is why we provide 'it just work' as in most case 08:21 <@jpeach> I thought that it would be unlikely doe that example script to work for any one 08:21 <@ming_zym> I am really sad on every step we move away from newbies 08:21 <@jpeach> production environments tend to be quite different 08:21 <@ming_zym> the origin is just work 08:21 <@jpeach> we should discuss on dev@ 08:21 <@ming_zym> at least on Linux 08:22 <@jpeach> if this config is useful, let's keep it 08:22 <@jpeach> I don't have a strong opinion :) 08:22 <@ming_zym> let us move on dev@ 08:26 <@jpeach> I'm not sure that there is any site who could use that email script without changes 08:26 <@ming_zym> but we use it because it provide a 'just working' example there. 08:26 <@ming_zym> I don't think every user will hosting thousands of servers like us 08:27 <@jpeach> should the "just working" example send email? or do something else? 08:27 <@ming_zym> why shoud they build a complex system to collect those message? 08:27 <@jpeach> yes good point
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