That sounds reasonable. However, it does cause a compatibility issue for 
someone upgrading in that, I think this API might change the cache key and 
could potentially break cache. 

Given that, wouldn’t we prefer to break the API in a more obvious fashion (e.g. 
modify the signature to require a “normalized” param), to let existing plugins 
that use this API explicitly modify as they need?


> On Jun 12, 2019, at 6:06 AM, Alan Carroll 
> <solidwallofc...@verizonmedia.com.invalid> wrote:
> 
> Didn't that PR do the normalization at a lower level? I like zwoop's idea,
> that TSEffectiveUrlGet always return a normalized URL. It's kind of the
> point of the call, to get the "real" URL from the request. I don't even
> think that breaks compatibility since that's the correct value to return.
> 
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 3:33 PM Walt Karas <wka...@verizonmedia.com.invalid>
> wrote:
> 
>> That was the original version of the PR, to just change the behavior of the
>> existing effective URL get function.  It just twisted in the wind for two
>> months.
>> 
>> I think an aversion to long names in a C API is not realistic.  When ya got
>> no scoping or overloading, it's either long names or very unintuitive ones.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 3:03 PM Leif Hedstrom <zw...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 11, 2019, at 12:24 PM, Walt Karas <wka...@verizonmedia.com
>> .INVALID>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry, premature send, my Mac sucks, fix it zwoop.
>>>> 
>>>> I looked and the IETF specs and discussed it with Dave Thompson.  It
>>> seems
>>>> that the only parts of the URL/URI that the Standards require to be
>> case
>>>> insensitive are the scheme and the host.  Our plugin compares the URL
>>> with
>>>> a simple string compare.  I think, for the purposes of that plugin, all
>>>> other parts of the URL are case sensitive.  I'd rather not have to
>> change
>>>> the plugin to have to deal with each component of the effective URL
>>>> individually.  Of course, this is probably just a fail safe, I would
>> bet
>>>> $10 that the widely used browsers normalize the scheme and host to
>>>> lowercase anyway.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Seems we could normalize those two fields in the existing API then. If
>>> that is an expected behavior (which I think both Walt and amc are
>>> implying), then why have an option to open up confusion. This would be
>>> inline with amc’s argument as well, that leaving normalization as an
>> option
>>> opens up a can of worm. So just always do the same thing, and everyone is
>>> happy (i don’t think we need two APIs for this).
>>> 
>>> Alternatively, we can change the existing API to take a normalization
>>> option, and break compatibility. I much prefer either of these options
>> than
>>> adding this really convoluted API contraption.
>>> 
>>> — Leif
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 1:18 PM Walt Karas <wka...@verizonmedia.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I looked and the IETF specs and discussed it with Dave Thompson.  It
>>> seems
>>>>> that the only parts of the URL/URI that the Standards requ
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 12:59 PM Bryan Call <bc...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What are you matching against?  Are you trying to match against the
>> URL
>>>>>> of a previous request?  Why only normalize the scheme and host and
>> not
>>> the
>>>>>> path, query parameters, or matrix parameters?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I think the problem is you are not giving details and people are
>>> guessing
>>>>>> at what you are trying to accomplish.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Bryan
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jun 11, 2019, at 10:14 AM, Walt Karas <wka...@verizonmedia.com
>>> .INVALID>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We (Verizon) want to deploy a plugin that matches on URL premap.
>> With
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> host and scheme normalized, we can do the matching using a simple
>>> string
>>>>>>> compare.  I had put up a PR to simply change the behavior of
>>>>>>> TSHttpTxnEffectiveUrlStringGet() but it was pocket vetoed by lack of
>>>>>>> reviews.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 12:03 PM Sudheer Vinukonda
>>>>>>> <sudheervinuko...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hmm..But, how do you define "correct" normalization? Wouldn't that
>> be
>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>> case specific? Which is exactly why it feels like this shouldn't be
>>>>>> done in
>>>>>>>> the core?
>>>>>>>> If the use case is a common one that benefits everyone, then there
>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>> still be value in supporting it. That's why, curious to understand
>>> the
>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>> case.
>>>>>>>>  On Tuesday, June 11, 2019, 8:49:24 AM PDT, Alan Carroll
>>>>>>>> <solidwallofc...@verizonmedia.com.INVALID> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The issue is, what is the correct normalization to perform? If
>> that's
>>>>>>>> non-trivial, there's an argument for embedding that in the API
>>> rather
>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>> requiring every plugin to hand roll it. It would be the same reason
>>>>>>>> `realpath` exists.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 

Reply via email to