Great. Should I create a jira to create a new docs branch?

Thanks,

Gunnar

On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 4:48 PM, Hans Zeller <[email protected]> wrote:

> +1
>
> Another thing I noticed with other sites, the Javadoc pages seem to be
> available only for the latest release (at least that was my impression). It
> might be good to make those and other reference information like manuals
> available for older versions as well.
>
> Another dimension is whether we put info on a static page vs. a wiki where
> people can edit and comment. Apache requires certain things to be on a page
> managed by source control, but IMHO it would be nice to have other info on
> a wiki, with discussions right near the page with the relevant content, so
> people can see and discuss common problems and their solutions. Also, the
> speed is much faster. Even if we put the non-wiki site in a separate
> repository, some rules for committing changes to it may still apply.
>
> Hans
>
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Christophe LeRouzo <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > +1
> >
> > It can also enable different kind of contributions than the ones on the
> > code
> > itself.
> >
> > Regards,
> > -clr
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Amanda Moran [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 3:18 PM
> > To: dev <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: Website Updates
> >
> > +1
> >
> > Makes sense to me.
> >
> > Thanks Gunnar.
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Gunnar Tapper <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > As it turns out, we immediately hit issues with having the website as
> > > part of the product source tree.
> > >
> > > The website is really a standalone entity that operates at a different
> > > speed than the product and that should be on a different release
> > > schedule than the overall product.
> > >
> > > The speed issue is that the review-then-commit model has long delays
> > > built in, which are counter productive for website development (since
> > > that development tends to be sporatic and clustered) thereby slowing
> > > down the updates and and forcing huge commits instead of incremental
> > > commits. The tie to a release is really odd since a website update is
> > > forcefully tied to a product release in such a model. A workaround
> > > would be to publish the content of the docs/target directory before
> > > the in-progress release is done, which doesn't really follow the
> > > spirit of release versions. If anything, the website should have it's
> own
> > > version scheme.
> > >
> > > Given the precedence of other projects separating out the website and
> > > documentation, then it seems reasonable to do the same from Trafodion.
> > > I assume that the committers votes on this? Is a Jira needed or some
> > > other approach?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Gunnar
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 5:15 PM, Dave Birdsall
> > > <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Just thinking out loud.
> > > >
> > > > Pros to keeping just one repository:
> > > >
> > > > Makes it possible to update code and web site in one pull request. I
> > > don't
> > > > know anyone who is doing that now however. Longer term, though, we
> > > > will want to encourage documentation to be updated alongside code so
> > > > this may be
> > > the
> > > > direction we want to go.
> > > >
> > > > Makes it easier to have a notion of code + web site being on the
> > > > same release thread. Of course that can still be done with separate
> > > > repositories; it is just twice the work from an infrastructure
> > > > perspective.
> > > >
> > > > Pros for having separate repositories:
> > > >
> > > > Makes it easier for the web site to be "pan-release". For example,
> > > > one
> > > can
> > > > maintain separate pages for past releases and pages for future
> > releases.
> > > >
> > > > It might be interesting to inquire of other projects why they do
> > > > things
> > > the
> > > > way they do.
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Gunnar Tapper [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 3:59 PM
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Subject: Website Updates
> > > >
> > > > Hi folks:
> > > >
> > > > I'm working on updating the website. As I look around, I find that
> > > > some projects seem to have a separate repository for the website. I
> > > > assume
> > > that
> > > > it's so that the website can be updated asynchronously from the
> > > > actual project.
> > > >
> > > > Examples:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >    - http://phoenix.apache.org/building_website.html
> > > >    - https://geode.incubator.apache.org/contribute/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What would be the pros and cons you'd see for Apache Trafodion? Is
> > > > anyone dead against a separate repository for the website?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Gunnar
> > > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Gunnar
> > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Amanda Moran
> >
>



-- 
Thanks,

Gunnar
*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*

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