Hi all, For sure, the maturity model pages is just an aide regarding self assessment. Whenever we feel comfortable enough (it doesn't depend on the releases, I would say, as that is technical and improving over time) regarding our maturity, I feel certain that no-one in the IPMC will object to us graduating.
But diversity all the way up to the top of the pyramid (PMC), at this moment in time, is a thing that those not involved in the upcoming release should help out with. Surely, the upcoming release will help in that respect. But all of us can help communicate. Via email, via blog, via presentations and via soc. media (tweeting from the @trafodion account, and retweeting). My suggestion is: build the momentum towards r2.0, continue the reminders after the release. But not only about the product, but also about the project. Share the workload and the effort required by each is minimised. Best regards, Pierre Smits ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> OFBiz based solutions & services OFBiz Extensions Marketplace http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Carol Pearson <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Gunnnar, > > Depends on how easy folks decide it is to build and install and test > Trafodion. That's been a problem in the past - no one in the IPMC has been > able to do that... > > And recall that the community maturity model assessment is a proposal and > doesn't carry the weight of law (though it's very useful and others pay > attention to it as well - we should bee working on the various points > there). There was a discussion on this last October in the apache-general > list. [1], particularly answers like [2]. It's probably been discussed > other times as well. > > That said, I agree that a trend toward more diversity in contributors and > then committers is a good thing and we need to focus on it. 2.0 will be a > help there if it makes building/installing/using Trafodion more friendly, > what with all the changes and documentation and all.. > > -Carol P. > > [1] > > https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201510.mbox/%3CCAEWfVJkAB_Aa+=J-HWqoaOVT3XVj=wxgh-6kvcnjhyfrfxm...@mail.gmail.com%3E > > [2] > > https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201510.mbox/%3ccab63y-ftzxpw7pn4ess2x08opapiymxku39s2ue9szy7bzk...@mail.gmail.com%3E > > Is there a way to get shorter URLs from the archives? Other than a URL > shortener, that is..... > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Email: [email protected] > Twitter: @CarolP222 > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 11:51 PM, Gunnar Tapper <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Looking at the list, IN-10 is where we may have more work to do. > Otherwise, > > 2.0 should be ready for graduation IMO. > > > > Gunnar > > > > On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 11:57 PM, Stack <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 4:11 AM, Pierre Smits <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Maybe we should do the maturity assessment (see > > > > > > > > > > https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html > > > > ) > > > > and take it from there... > > > > > > > > > > > I like that page Pierre. Looks like a useful set of tests to try > against > > > T*. > > > > > > When are we thinking the next release will happen? > > > > > > I see 2.0 is coming along nicely. Will that be the next release out of > > > incubator? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > St.Ack > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See also how that worked for Tinkerpop. > > > > https://pony-poc.apache.org/thread.html/Zvgmc96r64mjn5l > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > Pierre Smits > > > > > > > > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> > > > > OFBiz based solutions & services > > > > > > > > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace > > > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ > > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 9:24 PM, Carol Pearson < > > > [email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi St.Ack, > > > > > > > > > > You're welcome - I love playing with data. I interpret those > numbers > > > the > > > > > same way - we need to focus on diversity and traffic levels (and do > > > > another > > > > > release beyond 2.0). > > > > > > > > > > Our user list activity has jumped thanks to those efforts and > that's > > a > > > > good > > > > > thing - having activity there makes new users feel more comfortable > > > > asking > > > > > questions than if there was no activity. > > > > > > > > > > Trafodion folks talked to a number of people at the developer > > showcase > > > at > > > > > Strata where we had a demo of Trafodion interacting with Zeppelin > and > > > > with > > > > > Kafka - we'll see what comes of that. We need to do more outreach, > > > > > including things like visibility at meetups and such. > > > > > > > > > > And probably more of something that I've been bad, which is > > mentioning > > > > > Trafodion on on other Apache lists, contributing there, etc. A bit > of > > > > > cross-pollination to generate energy? > > > > > > > > > > I'm working on a few basic how-to videos now that Strata is done to > > try > > > > to > > > > > make it easier to get involved in the Trafodion community. And now > > that > > > > > Strata is done, I'd also like to set up a monthly "meet up with us > > > here" > > > > > online session. But really, truly, you can't join a community you > > > don't > > > > > know exists, so it's the outreach component that's most critical. > > > > > > > > > > Do you (or anyone else) have other suggestions for what's worked in > > the > > > > > past or that the Trafodion community could try? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > -Carol P. > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > Email: [email protected] > > > > > Twitter: @CarolP222 > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 9:10 PM, Stack <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 1:13 AM, Carol Pearson < > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So we're seeing some additional participation but it's still > > > heavily > > > > > > > dominated by Esgyn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We need to work on getting our diversity quotient and general > > traffic > > > > on > > > > > > the lists up, it looks like. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for taking the time to make the report Carol, > > > > > > > > > > > > St.Ack > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Thanks, > > > > Gunnar > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.* > > >
