Hi Mirko,

it's great to have you here.

On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 11:48 PM Mirko Kämpf <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hey Apache-Training Team,
> today I joined the mailing list and during my long flights I have found
> time to think about the project.
>
> Besides the discussion /creation of project internal processes we must have
> in mind, that corprate training is "Game about real money".
>
> My motivation is to help to make training in OS Software easier to deliver
> - this may spread the word about OSS too.
>
> Full curriculum development can be considered as a separate task. I think,
> Apache Software projects can help with prebuild training components.
>

In theory, yes. In practice no one has stopped them from doing so in the
last 20 years and none (or very few have done so). It's not trivial. I'd
definitely ping the communities for help/interest, especially for reviews
but I wouldn't count on much content coming in from those directions. It'd
be great to be proven wrong on this one!


> Trainers take such modules and focus on customer demand and a good path to
> teach or work and grow together.
> Taking away the technical burdon from a trainer can be so benefitial -
> trainers still need to be experts, but I don't want them to fix Software
> issues. This is a different topic.
>
> Is this understanding in line with the project?
>
> I propose not to limit the project to any tooling. ASCII doc is cool, Latex
> is widely used in Academia - and this is a huge resources to get
> contributors for this fresh flavored Apache Project. If we Pickup people on
> their place it will be much easier.
> I think this project will be a bit different - also less software focused
> geeks can join and bring energy in.
>

I agree that this project is a bit different but I also see a value in
having one common format for all of the content. If we allow various
different ones we need to maintain toolchains for each, we (us
contributors) need to learn all of them, it makes reusing tooling etc.
harder.

I don't know the best way either. And I'm sure whatever we decide on won't
be perfect on our first try.


> I am convinced that OS is way more than Software and licenses - it drives
> Interactions, sharing and future.
>
> Here are some thoughts regarding contents:
> - collection of OS tutorials embedded/related to Apache Projects
> - collection of free Cheat-Sheets
> - Form to capture Life questions of Trainers --> learn about real demand
>

I'm not sure I understand this one. Can you elaborate/rephrase?


> - Repository with answers to such questions (incl. search capability)
> # I created a tool for this some time ago. Would love to refresh and
> contribute it If demand exists and If it is in line with project scope.
> The tool I mean makes sense especially If we plan to grow a trainer
> community.
>

All of that sounds good to me though (and I think Sharan was mentioning
something along these lines in another thread already)! I/we would love
your contributions.

Safe travels,
Lars


>
> So, thats all for today.
> Cheers, and best wishes,
> Mirko
>
>
>
> Am Sa., 23. Feb. 2019, 13:50 hat Sharan Foga <[email protected]>
> geschrieben:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > I'd prefer Jira too especially if it's going to be easier for anyone to
> > contribute.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Sharan
> >
> > On 2019/02/23 04:21:44, Kenneth Knowles <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > One thing I've encountered on GitHub is that you can only assign a
> PR
> > > > > review to a member of the `apache` organization. Is that also true
> > for
> > > > > issues?
> > > >
> > > > Most likely but I don’t know. Because of GitHib's poor granularity of
> > it's
> > > > permission system INFRA have locked it down and a lot of things
> > projects
> > > > can do in the wild can’t be done at Apache.
> > > >
> > >
> > > If this is true, I prefer Jira so non-committers can take issues. What
> do
> > > you do on echarts? Do you know what they do on royale-asjs?
> > >
> > > Kenn
> > >
> >
>

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