If tagged on PR, esp. for content, happy to review (believe I have
sufficient bandwidth to assist there).  Ideally with guidelines on
what would make content not acceptable.

On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 6:43 AM Sönke Liebau
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Lets wait a little for some more people to chime in and then start a vote
> thread tomorrow if there are no strong objections.
>
> On Fri, 24 Jan 2020 at 13:32, Lars Francke <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > But, as I said, while I have concerns I am personally willing to try
> > > something else - so won't stand in the way of commit then review.
> > >
> >
> > the same is true for me. We briefly discussed this a few months ago.
> > I'd love to have the time to review everything but I have to admit to
> > myself that I don't so in order to make more progress we should try
> > something different.
> >
> > I'd be happy to vote +1 for any other proposal.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Lars
> >
> >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Sönke
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 24 Jan 2020 at 12:55, Christofer Dutz <[email protected]
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Sönke,
> > > >
> > > > thanks for bringing this up ... Yes ... don't know if you were
> > referring
> > > > to me, but I did really stop contributing, because I thought the
> > process
> > > > was getting in the way of getting stuff done.
> > > >
> > > > I would suggest to definitely go to "commit then review" for content.
> > We
> > > > could consider staying at "review then commit" for the tooling and main
> > > > theme stuff, as this would affect others more than content does. But I
> > > > would also opt for going to the simper process in general and perhaps
> > > > change things if things go south.
> > > >
> > > > I think my unreviewed PR that lay dormant for months is a great
> > > > demonstration of the "review then commit" not working.
> > > >
> > > > Chris
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Am 24.01.20, 12:09 schrieb "Sönke Liebau" <[email protected]
> > > > .INVALID>:
> > > >
> > > >     Hi everybody,
> > > >
> > > >     as mentioned in our current board report I feel like we should
> > > revisit
> > > > the
> > > >     commit and review guidelines [1] that we currently have in place.
> > > >
> > > >     I have heard that in at least one instance individuals decided to
> > > stop
> > > >     contributing to this project because doing so was overly
> > complicated
> > > > and
> > > >     regulated - which personally I take as a serious red flag.
> > > >
> > > >     What do people think, should we move to a commit then review model,
> > > for
> > > >     everything, just for content contributions, treat code separately,
> > > ...
> > > >
> > > >     Personally I'd like to at least see some sort of check in place
> > that
> > > > only
> > > >     content that was actually reviewed makes it into a release.
> > > >     Personally, I feel that commit then review will lead to a large
> > > amount
> > > > of
> > > >     unreviewed content, but if I am the only one that thinks so I am
> > > > willing to
> > > >     adapt and try something else :)
> > > >
> > > >     Best regards,
> > > >     Sönke
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >     [1]
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > https://training.apache.org/developers/contributing.html#_toc_review_process1
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sönke Liebau
> > > Partner
> > > Tel. +49 179 7940878
> > > OpenCore GmbH & Co. KG - Thomas-Mann-Straße 8 - 22880 Wedel - Germany
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Sönke Liebau
> Partner
> Tel. +49 179 7940878
> OpenCore GmbH & Co. KG - Thomas-Mann-Straße 8 - 22880 Wedel - Germany

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