Hi, Vamsi.

Have you been able to make progress in this area? A quick update will be 
appreciated.

Thanks,
Raymond


From: Vamsavardhana Reddy 
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 7:55 AM
To: [email protected] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Re: Tuscany integration with Geronimo: What's common to SCA and what's 
sepcific to Geronimo?, was: Re: GSoC Project - Tuscany SCA support in the 
Geronimo admin Console


As a first step towards the integration, here are some items that I have 
identified with Raymond and Sebastien's help (Raymond, Sebastien, please 
correct me if I failed to capture the essence):

1. Model an EAR/WAR/EJB-JAR as an SCA contribution: By this I mean, given a 
Java EE archive (non-SCA-enhanced for now), compute by introspecting the 
archive, the SCA composite that represents the archive as an SCA contribution 
as per SCA JEE Integration Spec [1]. In this step, all the business interfaces 
implemented by session beans result in SCA services and all the EJB references 
(used in session beans, MDBs and web components) result in SCA references.

2. Get binding.ejb work with services. Currently binding.ejb works only with 
references.  Once binding.ejb works with services, the references computed in 
step 1 above can be wired to the services in the domain using ejb binding.

3. Common Administration view.  Once a JEE contribution is added to a domain, 
it should be administrable like any other SCA contribution.  The fact that the 
contribution may actually be run as a Java EE application on a Java EE server 
should be transparent to the administrator.

These three items should enable the coverage of scenarios 2.1-2.3 in section 2 
of SCA JEE Spec [1].  There is no Geronimo specific stuff yet in this.

I have done a little bit of experimentation with EJB jars.  Using openejb-core 
and openejb-jee modules, it seems fairly simple to introspect EJB3 jars (even 
though I already ran into some glitches with the interface definitions).  Will 
post to the list soon on my findings.

++Vamsi

[1] http://www.osoa.org/download/attachments/35/SCA_JAVAEE_Integration_V100.pdf


On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:37 PM, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  Ok, from the initial email there were only two points labelled [Common to 
SCA]: 


  * Manage the configuration (Contributions/Composites/Nodes) for a SCA domain 
[Common to SCA]

  * Resolve the wirings at SCA domain level for the top-level composites 
[Common to SCA]



  and all the other points are labelled [Specific to Geronimo]. I guess on the 
surface of it that all sounds fine to me as long as [Common to SCA] means its 
the APIs and code behind the APIs which are provided in a common way by 
Tuscany. For something like the GSoC project doing the Geronimo console 
management plugin that still needs to elements to be specific to Geronimo to be 
integrated as part of the Geronimo admin console doesn't it?

     ...ant 



  On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Raymond Feng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

    Hi,

    It's good to add the use cases from SCA/JEE spec into this discussion. But 
I want to make sure the purpose of this thread is to identify what's common to 
SCA in all hosting environment and what's specific to Geronimo. Base on the 
classification, we should implement the common features in a generic way and 
specific things in a Geronimo way.

    Thanks,
    Raymond


    From: ant elder 
    Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 12:56 AM
    To: [email protected] 
    Subject: Re: Tuscany integration with Geronimo: What's common to SCA and 
what's sepcific to Geronimo?, was: Re: GSoC Project - Tuscany SCA support in 
the Geronimo admin Console





    On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 11:43 AM, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




      On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 12:57 AM, Raymond Feng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

        Hi,


        I would like to extend the discussion a bit to help us better 
understand what user experience we would like to bring to Geronimo 
developers/users with Tuscany/SCA.

        I suggest that we use a usage scenario-driven approach to create a list 
of tasks/features and mark them either it's common to SCA independent of the 
hosting environment or it's specific to Geronimo.

        Here is a few roles a Geronimo instance can play in the SCA domain:

        1) Geronimo is a member of a SCA domain to deploy/run SCA applications

        * Connect to the SCA domain admin app to get the image of a resolved 
composite application
        * Be able to deploy the resolved composite application in the VM of 
Geronimo, either as JEE application or standalone [Specific to Geronimo]
        * Run the resolved composite application
        * Provide the binding/implementation/policy extensions to realize SCA 
binding/implementation/policy types.[[Specific to Geronimo]
          * Hook with the other containers in Geronimo to provide various 
bindings, such as HTTP connectors with Tomcat
          * Hook with the QoSs such Transaction and Security provided by 
Geronimo to implement the SCA policies
        * Create/manage related resources for some bindings, such as JMS 
connection factories and queues [Specific to Geronimo]

        2) Geronimo hosts the SCA domain admin application

        * Manage the configuration (Contributions/Composites/Nodes) for a SCA 
domain [Common to SCA]
        * Resolve the wirings at SCA domain level for the top-level composites 
[Common to SCA]
        * Deploy the resolved composite image to a in-process or remote host [A 
Geronimo or JSR88 Deployer may be specific to Geronimo]

        3) Geronimo hosts (some) contributions for a SCA domain
        * Expose them as URLs to the SCA domain admin application. In this 
case, It functions as a repo for SCA contributions. [Specific to Geronimo]

        I think we should only try to implement a feature in a 
geronimo-specific way only if it's specific to Geronimo.

        Thanks,
        Raymond




      Now that the 1.0 version of the SCA JEE spec [1] is out that defines 
several concrete use cases and scenarios we can use to define the tasks and 
features we need. For example, how about one goal be running in Geronimo the 
application.ear shown at line 1131 page 41 "Appendix A – use cases" of the SCA 
JEE spec.

         ...ant 

      [1] 
http://www.osoa.org/download/attachments/35/SCA_JAVAEE_Integration_V100.pdf


    Any comments on this or does silence mean that example from the JEE spec is 
an ok use case to be working towards for our first try at the new Geronimo 
integration? 

       ...ant




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