FYI, the regression has been fixed under r686861. For some reason, the "demos" folder is not on the main build by default and the webapp test failure had skipped out of my build before the original commit.

Thanks,
Raymond
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From: "Dan Becker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 2:09 PM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Port the DefaultSCADomain implementation to use tuscany-node2-impl

Since you are fixing any build and web app regressions, in my view I think that adds a few more coins to your side of the scale. I am happy to support your solution given this.

Raymond Feng wrote:

1) Keep the SCADomain impl as-is won't help the compatibility at all. The impl class has many dependencies to other classes in the code base, any change in the trunk will have the possibility to change the behaviors. The only criteria of "No Regression" in Tuscany we have so far is to make sure the build is successful with all the tests passing. Swapping or Keeping the impl of the DefaultSCADomain class won't make a difference here for the compatibility perspective.

2) When we start to deprecate SCADomain, we still have to ensure the functionality of the SCADomain API won't be broken. If we switch all the samples and test cases to the SCANode APIs, then no tests will execute the SCADomain path. This is risky.

BTW, I'm fixing the webapp regression and will check in the fix as soon as the build is complete.

Thanks,
Raymond

From: ant elder
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 6:11 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Port the DefaultSCADomain implementation to use tuscany-node2-impl


But we can do all that without touching the SCADomain impl so i think it would be better not to change it which will avoid any chance of breaking anyone. This change has stopped webapps working now and the continuum build is failing because of that so I'd like to put back the old impl to fix this, if not permanently at least while this discussion continues.

What are others views on replacing the SCADomain impl? Is it worth doing or is it safer to just leave it and just deprecate the class?

 ...ant

On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 5:48 PM, Raymond Feng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
There are a few reasons I did this:

1) Node APIs should be favored over SCADomain APIs as the behavior of the
Node APIs is much better aligned with the SCA specifications.

2) There are a lot of samples and testcases using the SCADomain. Swapping
the implementation is a simple way to align it with Node APIs without
breaking existing code. In fact, I just had to change one itest (where two deployable composites have the same name) to get the full build passed. That gives us great confidence that this change is not more "breaking" than other
changes by the nature of trunk.

3) The ongoing OSGi enablement will make it possible to create SCANode
instances of different types such as JSE, OSGi or JEE. SCADomain can
leverage it as well for the purpose of test automation.

4) This change can buy us some buffer to convert all the existing samples and testcases to use Node APIs (thank you for volunteering :-). We can start
to deprecate the SCADomain and migrate to Node APIs.

Thanks,
Raymond

From: ant elder
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 12:19 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Port the DefaultSCADomain implementation to use
tuscany-node2-impl





On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 8:14 AM, Luciano Resende <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 11:39 PM, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 6:49 PM, Raymond Feng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,

SCADomain APIs were introduced in Tuscany before we come up the Node APIs which are more consistent with the Domain concepts in the SCA spec. Even
though we should now use the Node APIs, there are still quite a few
samples
and testcases using the SCADomain API as a legacy. To better align the
behaviors of two APIs before we can finally remove the SCADomain, I'm
starting the port the DefaultSCADomain implementation to use node2-impl.
The
idea is to delegate the SCADomain APIs to Node2Impl.

I run into two issues here:

1) Node2Impl assumes the deployable composite has been fully resolved by
the SCA Domain. For example, the binding URIs and policies. In the
SCADomain, CompositeDocumentProcessor tries to transform the original
composite by applying the policySets first and then load it into the
Composite model using CompositeProcessor.

I'll work around this issue in the Node2Impl (use
CompositeDocumentProcessor to load the composite file and open a JIRA to
fix
it later when we have a good story to resolve the policy applications in
the
SCA domain first).

2) SCADomain APIs can take more than one deployable composites which Node
APIs expect only one deployable composite.

We'll only honor the first composite from SCADomain.newInstance. For a
few
testcases using more than one composites, we should create a composite
that
includes other composites and pass it the SCADomain API.

Thanks,
Raymond

Is there a good reason we need to do this? If not then i don't think we
should.

Backward compatibility is really important, this is an API we've been
using
in all the samples and telling users to use since the 0.90 release so we need a _really_ good reason to break it as is being done in (2), and even
for (1) i think its an unnecessary risk as there will be differences in
the
impl which will likely break things for users in some scenarios.

To be safe wouldn't it be better to just deprecate the SCADomain class and
change all our samples and tests to use the new Node2 APIs? If we don't
think the Node2 APIs are as easy to use as the SCADomain we should fix
that.
I know thats a little more work but i'll help by volunteering to make all
the test and sample changes.

  ...ant






I thought the changes from Raymond were making SCADomain to internally
use Node apis, and that should maintain compatibility. Looking at
changes in revision #r686391 I didn't see any sample changes.



Right and my question is why do that and risk breaking users with any
incompatibilities caused by the impl change?

If the new Node2 APIs are what we want people to use them we should change all our sample/demo/test code to show that and deprecated the old SCADomain
so people migrate off it to the new APIs.

 ...ant







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Thanks, Dan Becker

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