On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 10:36 AM, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
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>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 9:11 PM, Simon Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>> Raymond Feng wrote:
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>>>> I meant Extension. Some projects such as Axis2 and Woodstox use this
>>>> suffix for extended API/SPI.
>>>>  Thanks,
>>>> Raymond
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>>>> *From:* Simon Laws <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, December 08, 2008 8:44 AM
>>>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [1.4] ComponentContext changes
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>>>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Raymond Feng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
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>>>>    Hi,
>>>>        I'm looking into this area in the 2.x stream. What I have done is
>>>> to
>>>>    define a ComponentContextExt interface which extends from the
>>>>    ComponentContext interface and provides Tuscany specific SPIs. I
>>>>    also plan to consolidate RuntimeComponentContext and
>>>>    ComponentContextExt into one interface.
>>>>        In 1.4, the case is slightly different because we are trying to
>>>>    "enhance" the API. What module do you plan to add such an API? I
>>>>    think "ComponentContextExt" is still a good name for the extended
>>>> API.
>>>>        Thanks,
>>>>    Raymond
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>>>>    *From:* Simon Laws <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>    *Sent:* Monday, December 08, 2008 8:26 AM
>>>>    *To:* tuscany-dev <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>    *Subject:* [1.4] ComponentContext changes
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>>>>    A while back I checked the patch for TUSCANY-2281 in and part of
>>>>    this change was the extension of the ComponentContext API. This
>>>>    would seem to be incompatible with the spec license so I would like
>>>>    to propose a further change;
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>>>>    1/ Create a TuscanyComponentContext interface which extends
>>>>    ComponentContext and holds the new APIs for retrieving reference
>>>>    collections.
>>>>    2/ Have the RuntimeComponentContext extend the
>>>>    TuscanyCompoentContext interface
>>>>    3/ When you need to use the new APIs you have to cast to the
>>>>    TuscanyComponentContext
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>>>>    Collection<Crawler> crawlers =
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>>>>  ((TuscanyComponentContext)componentContext).getServices(Crawler.class,
>>>>    "crawlers");
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>>>>    As an optimization we could look at having the injectors inject
>>>>    TuscanyComponentContext if this is specified to remove the need to
>>>>    do the cast.
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>>>>    Thoughts?
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>>>>    Regards
>>>>
>>>>    Simon
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>>>> By Ext do you mean Extension/External? ComponentContextExtentsion sounds
>>>> ok to me. I think it could happily live in the sca api package as long as 
>>>> it
>>>> is clear that it isn't part of the specified api. Maybe the addition of the
>>>> word Tuscany makes that clearer? I should point out that the particular
>>>> problem that 2281 fixes has been corrected in the OASIS specs so this 
>>>> change
>>>> won't be needed in the OASIS SCA APIs that are added to trunk.
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>>>>  Whatever name we choose, I don't think this interface should be part of
>>> the sca-api module or the org.osoa.sca package.  We should add another
>>> module and package for Tuscany API extensions.
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>>>  Simon
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>>>  Simon
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>> Hi Simon
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>> I agree it shouldn't be part of the org.osoa.sca package. But do we need
>> to add a new module just to hold these extensions?
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>> Simon
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> Not so long ago there was some reluctance to put even the spec defined JSP
> taglib into the sca-api module so while thats the approach then i don't
> think Tuscany classes should go in the sca-api module either. I do think it
> would be easier for users to have a single jar they can use which has all
> the API classes that they might be needed to compile an SCA application,
> that was the intention for the api module which aggregated all the API
> classes in to one easy to use jar.
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>    ...ant
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Looking back over the mail list I see I would be swimming against the tide
on this. In 1.x/1.4 I'll create a new module called sca-api-extension and
put the tuscany specific API in there.

I would hope that OASIS actually ship the api jar themselves and we wouldn't
want to insert new content in there so I could be persuaded that this is a
consistent story going forward in 2.x.

Simon

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