On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 3:53 PM, ant elder <[email protected]> wrote:

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> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Simon Laws <[email protected]>wrote:
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>> We recently moved over to the OASIS package names [1] and I notice commits
>> to change the schema yesterday. So I want to discuss the backward
>> compatibility issue again. If we have aspirations to support any kind of
>> backward compatibility then we need to think about it now a bit otherwise
>> we'll make life difficult for ourselves later on
>>
>> So what does backward compatibility mean? There are a range of answers.
>> For example,
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>> A/ None - SCA 1.0 and SCA 1.1 composites must run on completely separate
>> 1.x and 2.x Tuscany runtimes. Any interaction is through remote bindings
>> B/ Shared domain - SCA 1.0 and SCA 1.1 composites can be contributed to
>> the same domain but spec specific node/runtimes are required to actually run
>> them. Binding. sca is compatible though.
>> C/ Shared runtime - SCA 1.0 and SCA 1.1 composites can be contributed to
>> the same node/untimes
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>> In my opinion we should do at least B and give some though to the
>> implications of C to either discount it or address it.
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>> I think the implication of B is that the assembly model is shared between
>> SCA 1.0 and SCA 1.1. I don't want to blow progress of course and I still
>> agree with Ant that we can bring backward compatibility on line a little
>> later. However if we do just rip and replace SCA 1.0 for SCA 1.1 then it
>> makes this later effort more difficult that it need be.
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>> This probably just comes down to simple things. It's tempting to just
>> replace all the xsd's and fix up the processors to take account of them. But
>> unless we change the processor package names and/or class names then it
>> makes it harder to bring the SCA1.1 processors back in when we want to run
>> both in the domain.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Simon
>>
>> [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg04724.html
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> That C/ above is the ideal isn't it? So what if we just say we will do that
> until we find some blocking issue? OTTOMH I can't think of a blocking issue,
> can anyone? If not then its just implementation detail - we need scdl
> processors for each version, the SCA API for bother versions, and in the
> Tuscany code things like everywhere it looks for an SCA annotation it needs
> to check in both old and new packages. As we implement it we may come across
> something that impossible to do in the one runtime so if/when that happens
> we'd either need to abandon the backward compatibility effort or else
> document the case and say if thats an issue to an application then it needs
> to stay using the 1.x code.
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>    ...ant
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Yeah, right. The runtime, certainly the XML processors, have been explicitly
designed to be fired up based on the namespace of the XML they are trying to
process so it seems a real shame to rip and replace.

As for C. I just don't think we know but I agree it's the ideal and, as I
say, I wouldn't want to discount it just because we haven't thought about it
properly.

+1 to doing as much as we can until it gets in the way.

Simon

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