On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 1:26 PM John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> wrote:
> If Todd's interested, we should hold a vote. We should probably hold a > vote regardless. > > We can also plan to practice the common pattern of rolling PMC chairs. Its > a boring job, but someone has to do it. By rotating periodically (e.g. > annually) we're keeping it a chore for a year only. > > John > > On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 8:21 AM Dave <snoopd...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I'm willing to serve as PMC Chair unless Todd wants this. > > > > Todd: please read up on this thread an respond so we can move ahead with > > graduation. This is the one about the PMC Chair: > > http://markmail.org/message/u4njh6uxlgkafcws > > > > Dave > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 8:48 PM Ed Anuff <e...@anuff.com> wrote: > > > > > Agree that Todd or Dave are great candidates. Of course, it's not a > > > draft, so need to see who actually wants it. > > > > > > I've been watching the whole diversity thread on the Incubator list and > > > there does seem to be some polarized opinions. I think it would be > > useful > > > to review the recent commentary around other proposed graduations to > see > > > how we fare regard to that as well as the other issues. > > > > > > Ed > > > > > > > On Jul 25, 2015, at 3:53 PM, Rod Simpson <r...@rodsimpson.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > +1 for Dave or Todd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Rod Simpson > > > > > > > > On July 25, 2015 at 11:28:17 AM, John D. Ament ( > john.d.am...@gmail.com > > ) > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > A few comments in line (I was going to email to see what the status > > was, > > > > then noticed it was in git, then saw this mail... slowly catching > up). > > > > > > > >> On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 10:40 AM Dave <snoopd...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Now that I have updated the project status page (usergrid.xml) to > > > include > > > >> all committers and their users ( > > > >> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/usergrid.html -- not sure why > it > > > has > > > >> not updated yet), I believe we are ready to move ahead with > > graduation. > > > >> > > > >> Graduation to a top level project requires: > > > >> - a charter for your project > > > >> - a positive community graduation VOTE > > > >> - a positive IPMC recommendation VOTE > > > >> - the acceptance of the resolution by the Board > > > >> (link: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#process) > > > >> > > > >> I have put together a DRAFT charter here: > > > >> > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-usergrid/blob/master/tlp-resolution.txt > > > >> > > > >> To complete the charter we need to decide who will be the Project > > > >> Management Committee (PMC) chair, aka VP Apache Usergrid. This > person > > > will > > > >> be the ASF Board of Directors eyes and ears on the project and will > be > > > >> responsible for writing the project status report every couple of > > > months, > > > >> ensuring that Apache policies are being followed and when > appropriate > > > >> raising issues to the attention of the board. The chair has no > special > > > >> authority to make technical decisions or direct the project. > > > >> > > > >> So, for discussion: > > > >> > > > >> * Are we really truly ready to gradate? > > > > > > > > The only concern I can see coming up is a diverse enough community. > Its > > > > come up a few times with recent graduations, so let's make sure. I > > think > > > > everything else has been resolved, so we're good. > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> * What else do we need to do before we graduate? > > > > * Should we ask all committers if they want to remain in project? (we > > > >> haven't heard from some in a while, and one does not have an > account) > > > > Yes, you should. In addition, I would like to see a distinct list of > > > > PMC/Committers in the resolution, even if its mostly the same. > > > > > > > > > > > >> * Nominations for PMC chair? > > > > > > > > My nominations are: > > > > - Dave > > > > - Todd > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> * Any other concerns? Mentors? > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Thanks, > > > >> Dave > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 1:50 PM Dave <snoopd...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> Sorry for the delayed response. > > > >>> > > > >>> I was waiting for after the 1.0.2 release to join this discussion > and > > > now > > > >>> that 1.0.2 is going out to the mirrors, I think we are ready to > > propose > > > >>> graduation. We should figure out the next steps and move quickly > > > towards > > > >> a > > > >>> graduation vote. > > > >>> > > > >>> - Dave > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 12:18 PM Shawn Feldman < > > > shawn.feld...@gmail.com> > > > >>> wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>>> Scott used to work full time on the project so not mistaken. Not > > sure > > > >> who > > > >>>> Alberto is > > > >>>> On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 9:29 AM John D. Ament < > > johndam...@apache.org> > > > >>>> wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 11:26 AM John D. Ament < > > > johndam...@apache.org > > > >>> > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> I notice that [1] is still not up to date with committer's IDs. > > > >> Came > > > >>>> up > > > >>>>>> last time graduation was discussed. I just committed some fixes > > > >>>> based on > > > >>>>>> IDs I could look up at [2], it looks like we have one case with > a > > > >>>> person > > > >>>>>> who never reconciled their CLA (Alberto Leal). That can be > > > >> addressed > > > >>>> in > > > >>>>>> graduation with regard to who the initial PMC and committers > are. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Also note - Scott Ganyo is listed on the committer index, > HOWEVER, > > he > > > >>>> does > > > >>>>> not show as incubator, which he should show, so I'm not sure if > > it's > > > a > > > >>>> case > > > >>>>> of mistaken identity or what. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> I think it is time for Usergrid to graduate. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> John > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> [1]: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/usergrid.html > > > >>>>>> [2]: http://people.apache.org/committer-index.html > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 11:18 AM Lewis John Mcgibbney < > > > >>>>>> lewis.mcgibb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Hi Folks, > > > >>>>>>> I would like to propose that Usergrid moves towards a > graduation. > > > >>>>>>> I am satisfied that the UG podling community has proven itself > > > >>>> suitable > > > >>>>> of > > > >>>>>>> graduation. > > > >>>>>>> I would like to keep this thread open for a wee while for us to > > > >>>> ponder > > > >>>>>>> over > > > >>>>>>> the graduation effort... based on the outcome we can make a > > > >> decision > > > >>>>> what > > > >>>>>>> to do. > > > >>>>>>> Excellent work on recent RC's Dave (I refrained on VOTE'ing to > > see > > > >>>> if UG > > > >>>>>>> was capable of making VOTE's and it was more than successful). > > > >>>>>>> Thanks > > > >>>>>>> Lewis > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>>> *Lewis* > > > >> > > > > > >
