I think we need to make some decisions at this level. For example should we add a VNIC to VM in image profile or it is better to add it in customizing level and just load theses new VNIC at provisioning time. Also, as far as I know, you have done something on interface, so would you mind to share it with us? or some documents to show which shows what are you planing to do. At the end, we should integrate our works together and the submit it as a contribution to VCL. So, I think it is better to make a better design at this stage.
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 4:58 PM, FNU Georgy Mathew Kallumkal <[email protected] > wrote: > Hi Mani, > > By Customizing i meant the same things that you mentioned about adding > interfaces and adding the nodes as a part of some VLAN etc. Yes we can > start implementing these features. A basic User Interface design should be > made and then we can go into the backend code design and integrating with > Open VSwitch. > > Thanks > Georgy > > On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Mani Shafa'atDoost <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > I hope you got a chance to review emails. > > Since most important issues has been mentioned, so I think we can start > > designing a solution to implement these features. > > Please let me know, how can we continue this work to the design and > > implementation stage. > > > > Best Regards > > Mani > > > > On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Mani Shafa'atDoost < > [email protected] > > >wrote: > > > > > Georgy, I have a question about Cluster Customization options, would > you > > > mind to explain it more. > > > Josh, Thank you very much for summing up everything. > > > > > > I think we need to have following features: > > > * we should be able to add more than two VNIC to each VM > > > There are two option for this, first is to add more VLAN on image > > > specification, second is to add VNIC just in the provisioning time > > > I think the first solution is better > > > *Add each VNIC to one VLAN which allow you to customize your network > > > Again, we have three options for adding VLAN tag, first is in the host > > > level (A lot of customization in each host) - not good. second to do > > > tagging on the Vmware Vswitch which is reasonable. Third is adding tag > > > on physical switch ( good for bare-metal images) > > > * Add a resource managing tab in VCL which allow user to make > > > a customize network by using VLANs( also it is possible to add IP for > > each > > > NIC) Then we can give permission to user to have access to this tab. > > > * It is possible to make a topology and reserve it as a normal image in > > > reservation menu ( like an image with sub-images) > > > > > > Best Regards > > > Mani > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Georgy Mathew Kallumkal < > [email protected] > > >wrote: > > > > > >> Adding to the above list: > > >> > > >> -Just like we have normal reservation, imaging reservation we can have > > >> "topology reservations" under the resource Manage Topologies. (We can > > then > > >> design the UI on the similar lines as imaging reservation. For Imaging > > >> reservations we have the forimaging field set in the "request" table. > we > > >> can have a new entry called "fortopology"). > > >> - Able to reserve a cluster of computers which may span over multiple > > >> servers. > > >> - Configuring the cluster with either "Default" settings or > "Customize" > > >> - Things that can be customized: Image environment, Interconnecting > > >> topology, private networks, VLAN's. > > >> > > >> -Georgy > > >> > > >> On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Josh Thompson < > [email protected] > > >> >wrote: > > >> > > >> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > >> > Hash: SHA1 > > >> > > > >> > VCL can be enhanced by the ability to configure networks between > > >> > provisioned > > >> > systems and existing network infrastructure. Mani Shafa'atDoost and > > >> Georgy > > >> > Kallumkal already started discussing the possibility of using Open > > >> vSwitch > > >> > to > > >> > provide some level of functionality. That discussion can be viewed > at > > >> this > > >> > thread: > > >> > > > >> > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/vcl- > > >> > dev/201208.mbox/<CAOhH3q+4kaYOE3=h6g5BCPyJnE8S7BNXmWMbqGW=5eYJ= > > >> > [email protected]> > > >> > > > >> > I'd like to start a discussion to design out a more generalized form > > of > > >> > network management. Here are some initial thoughts to guide things. > > >> > > > >> > Remember to design in security from the beginning. If users will > need > > >> to > > >> > apply some type of "network config" to a reservation, who will be > able > > >> to > > >> > access which network configs? It would probably be best to make > them > > a > > >> new > > >> > resource. That would provide a way to control who can use them, who > > can > > >> > administer them, and to which other resources they can be applied > > >> > (mapping). > > >> > > > >> > Another thing to keep in mind is modularity. For simple installs, > > >> people > > >> > may > > >> > not want to do any network management. So, there should either be > the > > >> > option > > >> > to not use it, or to have a default configuration that is just > applied > > >> to > > >> > everything that is deployed. Also, it should be possible to change > > out > > >> > which > > >> > technology is used for network management, as well as being able to > > use > > >> > multiple technologies at the same time. Open vSwitch has already > been > > >> > mentioned and looks to be a great thing to start with. However, VCL > > can > > >> > also > > >> > provision bare metal installs. In this case, it would be good to be > > >> able > > >> > to > > >> > interface with the physical switches to which the bare machines are > > >> > connected. > > >> > It would also be good to have the option of supporting options other > > >> than > > >> > Open > > >> > vSwitch. > > >> > > > >> > Try to design things such that there can be a somewhat simple UI for > > the > > >> > end > > >> > users. One of VCL's strong points is that it has a simple UI for an > > end > > >> > user > > >> > in making a reservation for an image (though the admin UI can get > > rather > > >> > complicated). I like the idea of trying to keep an admin portion of > > the > > >> > site > > >> > where things can be controlled with high granularity, but a user > > >> portion of > > >> > the site where things can be reserved with simplicity. > > >> > > > >> > So, those are some good guidelines to keep in mind when adding > > features > > >> to > > >> > VCL. I'd suggest the first step in developing a new feature would > be > > to > > >> > list > > >> > out the requirements. Here are a few things to use as a starting > > point > > >> of > > >> > a > > >> > feature set: > > >> > > > >> > * connect a specific VLAN to a reserved image > > >> > * configure a "private network" among a cluster of images > > >> > * allow either of the above to be associated with an image so that > > >> > it gets configured when a reservation for the image is made > > >> > * allow an image/cluster and a network config to be selected > > >> > independently at deploy time (i.e. opposite of previous item) > > >> > * authorization controls of who has access to which network configs > > >> > > > >> > Others - please add further requirements to this as you see fit. > > >> > > > >> > Josh > > >> > - -- > > >> > - ------------------------------- > > >> > Josh Thompson > > >> > VCL Developer > > >> > North Carolina State University > > >> > > > >> > my GPG/PGP key can be found at pgp.mit.edu > > >> > > > >> > All electronic mail messages in connection with State business which > > >> > are sent to or received by this account are subject to the NC Public > > >> > Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties. > > >> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > >> > Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) > > >> > > > >> > iEYEARECAAYFAlAaqtUACgkQV/LQcNdtPQM+PACfRB1leBItS/hJi1SZTEV8yQVg > > >> > +EcAn0Yu5Ye/INZnWm2Q5+qrUSYZ+3Bv > > >> > =8lFv > > >> > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Best Regards > > > Mani > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Best Regards > > Mani > > > -- Best Regards Mani
