Hi Christopher,

As I know, the format option is available for the openstack-neutronclient
but not openstack-novaclient yet.

-Young


On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Christopher Wolfe <[email protected]> wrote:

> Cameron,
>         AFAICT, the [--request-format {json,xml}] option is applicable to
> virtually all of the latest CLI executables. Whether or not they correctly
> observe the options, I can't say. I've used the CLI commands extensively,
> but have only ever needed the default table format. I'll try and assess the
> current state of JSON output compliance and get back to you.
>
> Regards,
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cameron Mann [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 3:13 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: OpenStack Module
>
> Chris,
>
> Do you (or anyone else for that matter) know if there are plans for the
> option of a standardized output format in the CLI? It doesn't seem to exist
> now, though I did find a ticket for JSON output (
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-novaclient/+bug/1254351), but it was
> closed because another patch that included the same functionality was in
> progress, and I couldn't find any more details. If that feature was
> available it would make a good middle ground.
>
> Cameron
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Christopher Wolfe <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Cameron, All,
> >         I agree that, in principle text processing is fragile, but I
> > think that the salient point is that the PERL library is not well
> > supported (assuming that is, in fact, the case). Around the
> > Essex-Folsom transition, there were a bunch of OpenStack API changes
> > that renamed various CLI options, etc. The intent appears to have been
> > to standardize the symbology across the various APIs, a goal which I
> believe they have largely achieved.
> > I'm not 100% hip with upcoming changes in OpenStack, but the only CLI
> > changes I can see coming are possibly updating any holdover
> > quantum-xxx to neutron-xxx names (most of these are already updated,
> > but there may be a few; ones I've noticed have been in config files,
> > and not the CLI API anyway). However, the output format of the
> > OpenStack APIs has become quite standardized (commands generally
> > output one of three formats: table, XML(YAML?), JSON, or can produce
> > custom format specified by CLI options). I think the problem with
> > investing in the PERL API is that you'll be stuck with whatever level
> > of support the maintainer provides, ad infinitum. On the other hand,
> > working with Young Oh's code means that necessary changes can be made
> > expediently and without hacks around a middle-man. In short, I don't
> > see the OpenStack API changing at a pace that would render Young's
> > code obsolete, but I could imagine a scenario where the PERL module
> > becomes out of date and requires special effort to prop up. Of course,
> the point is moot if the PERL api is, in fact, well supported.
> >         As an aside, the burden of text processing could be alleviated
> > somewhat by using the JSON output format and letting well-worn
> > libraries do the actual parsing.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Chris
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Cameron Mann [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 2:38 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: OpenStack Module
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > We had a call earlier today to discuss which OpenStack module we
> > should focus our development efforts on and at this point a community
> > decision is required. For reference, Young Oh's module is available in
> > trunk and ours is on GitHub
> > (https://github.com/cybera/openstack-vcl-module). Our module is based
> > off Young's original module which we've also used successfully in
> > production with only minor modifications. Both modules are perfectly
> > feasible, and I think the end product won't differ much regardless of
> which we use, but there is one key decision that needs to be made.
> >
> > Young's module currently calls out to and parses the output of the
> > Nova command line client to interact with the OpenStack API whereas we
> > use a third-party Perl SDK (
> https://github.com/ironcamel/Net-OpenStack-Compute).
> > The command line client is a more difficult and fragile approach
> > (parsing textual output), but it's an official OpenStack package.
> > There's no risk of it lagging behind OpenStack releases, so while
> > breakages are more likely, they'll occur in areas that we can fix in
> > the provisioning module. The SDK is easier and safer to work with
> > since it's a programmatic way of accessing the API, but it's a third
> > party package maintained by apparently one person. I believe
> > OpenStack's API has generally been very stable; new features are added
> > instead of changing existing ones, but there's always the remote
> > possibility a change breaks the SDK and it never gets fixed which would
> require replacing it with something else.
> >
> > There are other differences between the modules, but they're
> > relatively minor and are going to be changed for general release
> > regardless so the choice really comes down to which of these
> > approaches the community would prefer.
> >
> > Cameron
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Andy Kurth <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > I think we're all in agreement that removing dependencies on
> > > /etc/hosts is an improvement.  I'm working on this and should have
> > > the changes committed this week.
> > >
> > > To summarize the situation and changes, the backend code currently
> > > reads /etc/hosts in order to determine the private IP address of a
> > > node.  It does not rely on the computer.privateIPaddress field in
> > > the database.  Several node configuration tasks depend on knowing
> > > the
> > correct private IP address.
> > >  The backend code also currently uses the computer.hostname value to
> > > SSH into nodes.  As a result, it depends on hostname-private IP
> > > address resolution working correctly -- which is usually
> > > accomplished via /etc/hosts.
> > >
> > > I will change the code to:
> > > (1) Not read or reference /etc/hosts at all
> > > (2) Use the computer.privateIPaddress field as the authoritative
> > > value
> > > (3) Use the private IP address instead of the hostname for all SSH
> > > and other connections
> > > (4) Add utils.pm::update_private_ip_address
> > >
> > > This will allow any provisioning module to have control over how
> > > private IP addresses are allocated.  If they are dynamically
> > > allocated when a node is loaded or instantiated, the provisioning
> > > module can retrieve the dynamic private IP address from Openstack or
> > > some other provisioning API, and call update_private_ip_address to
> > > set the correct value in the database.  The provisioning module
> > > should also call
> > $self->data->set_private_ip_address.
> > >  When control is passed from the provisioning to the OS module,
> > > everything should be set up correctly.
> > >
> > > -Andy
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

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