On 1/27/07, Henning P. Schmiedehausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
"Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Normally yes - you vote on the final software that's going to be
>released, not just the concept.
>At the moment, I have no clue what would actually go out the door wrt
>the binary (included libs, LICENSE and NOTICE files, etc)
>Should be easy.
Hm. That *is* a strong imbalance IMHO between projects that ship docs
as part of their distribution (like we do) and others that simply keep
and update their docs online and ship just e.g. javadocs.
In that case, I'd actually like to discuss removing all docs except
automatically created docs from source (e.g. Javadocs, Changelog etc.)
from the distribution archives.
-1 i like keeping docs with distros, both source and binary. and as
Geir said, it doesn't really solve the problem.
We do have to discuss the actual release process. Other projects
(e.g. httpd) do it differently, they roll their distribution archives
first and then vote on them. We do it the other way around.
+1 !! i've been thinking about this for quite some time. i like the
freedom httpd-ish projects have to change the status of a release (in
any direction) without having to re-roll it. at the latest, i'd like
to see us adopt this after Engine 1.5 and Tools 1.3 are out. it's a
little superfluous to switch to this now since we've already been
stepping through betas and RCS, but if people really wanted to start
now, that's fine by me. :)
Best regards
Henning
>geir
>On Jan 27, 2007, at 6:20 AM, Henning P. Schmiedehausen wrote:
>> "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> I assume we'll have another vote on the final binary?
>>
>>> geir
>>
>> Do we need to? The code itself will not change, just some doc file,
>> change logs etc.
>>
>> Best regards
>> Henning
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jan 27, 2007, at 3:52 AM, Henning P. Schmiedehausen wrote:
>>
>>>> "Will Glass-Husain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I'd say that I fully agree with your points. This is part of the
>>>> "docs
>>>> cleanup" before we release the code.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>> Henning
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Henning,
>>>>
>>>>> +1, with a caveat...
>>>>
>>>>> Users will want to see specifics of what's new with the system.
>>>>> Where's the change list? Will Maven generate this
>>>>> automatically? I
>>>>> suggest we have two items
>>>>
>>>>> * a copy of the release notes from the Wiki, moved into the main
>>>>> distro as "RELEASE-NOTES.txt". This summarizes key changes and
>>>>> more
>>>>> importantly, dependency changes.
>>>>
>>>>> * a maven generated list from changes.xml
>>>>
>>>>> I'm +1 if we have those two things.
>>>>
>>>>> As an aside, It's incredible all the work you've done,
>>>>> especially in
>>>>> the past few months.
>>>>
>>>>> WILL
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/24/07, Malcolm Edgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>> Been waiting for this day for a while now :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/25/07, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/24/07, Henning Schmiedehausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Let's do it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The list of changes
>>>>>>>> (http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?
>>>>>>>> version=12310253&styleName=Text&projectId=12310104&Create=Create
>>>>>>>> )
>>>>>>>> is much longer than it ought to be, the number of open issues
>>>>>>>> is more or less down to zero and no new issues have been
>>>>>>>> reported with beta 2. I think, it is time now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Stuff that I do expect to change between "now" (CfV) and
>>>>>>>> "then" (Relase)
>>>>>>>> are all non code:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Further work on the docs
>>>>>>>> - A Maven 2 POM so that the Mavenatics don't need to pull
>>>>>>>> velocity.jar
>>>>>>>> and velocity-dep.jar in all the time
>>>>>>>> - Updates on the xdocs themselves.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [ ] +1 Let's do it
>>>>>>>> [ ] 0 I don't care
>>>>>>>> [ ] -1 No, because __________________
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The vote will go for ~72 hours, that is Saturday, 27th, 18:00
>>>>>>>> MET
>>>>>>>> (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?
>>>>>>>> month=1&day=27&year=2007&hour=18&min=0&sec=0&p1=37)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My vote is +1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>> Henning
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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