Yes, sure.

        Best regards
                Henning

Will Glass-Husain schrieb:
> Henning,
> 
> If consensus is reached between you and Carlos, could you post a summary
> on the dev list on process/location changes for the next release?  I
> know the discussion has been public, but a paragraph or two summary
> would be very helpful for those of us who are not Maven mavens.
> 
> best,
> WILL
> 
> On 5/3/07, *Henning Schmiedehausen* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> 
>     Hi Carlos,
> 
>     I will put in the signatures shortly.
> 
>     For the engine, we have extension from the Apache POM already in SVN,
>     for the others it will follow too before we release.
> 
>             Best regards
>                     Henning
> 
> 
>     Carlos Sanchez schrieb:
>     > ok, so you are going to use those groups and put the artifacts only in
>     > the m2 repo from now on, right?
>     >
>     > I've rename them, you still have to add the PGP signatures to jars
>     and poms
>     >
>     > for next versions I'd suggest you to extend the apache parent pom to
>     > inherit some common information and reduce the size of your poms.
>     > http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/apache/4/apache-4.pom
>     >
>     >
>     > On 5/1/07, Henning Schmiedehausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>     >> Thank you for the clarification, Carlos.
>     >>
>     >> Can you fix the repo to use the new id's (org.apache.texen and
>     >> org.apache.anakia) by renaming the directories back and remove the
>     >> velocity-anakia and velocity-texen groups or can we do this
>     ourselves?
>     >>
>     >>         Best regards
>     >>                 Henning
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Carlos Sanchez schrieb:
>     >> > unfortunately there's no tooling for policy enforcement in the
>     repo
>     >> > and we are force to deal with issues like this after things are
>     >> > deployed and before they get propagated to the mirrors. It's
>     not the
>     >> > best solution, but is the only one right now.
>     >> > And I'm trying to solve future problems based on past experiences.
>     >> >
>     >> > The m1 and m2 repos are automatically converted to each other,
>     so you
>     >> > only need to deploy to one of them.
>     >> >
>     >> > Policies are the same, you can use old groupIds or use new ones
>     under
>     >> > org.apache.*
>     >> >
>     >> > You can put under m1 repo org.apache.velocity groupid, no
>     problem with
>     >> > that. For convenience people usually deploy with ant or m1 to
>     the m1
>     >> > repo and with m2 to the m2 repo.
>     >> >
>     >> > Another different issue is the group naming convention, for me
>     it'd
>     >> > make sense that anakia and texen were under org.apache.velocity.*
>     >> > based on my experience and considering the explosion of groups that
>     >> > could happen if all subprojects start using top level groupIds.
>     AFAIK
>     >> > there's no policy about this, so that's just my suggestion.
>     >> >
>     >> > What it is a policy is that all releases must be PGP signed,
>     and also
>     >> > you have to remove the repositories/repository entry
>     >> > "http://people.apache.org/repo/m2-ibiblio-rsync-repository";
>     from the
>     >> > poms as it's internal use only.
>     >> >
>     >> > Sorry for the trouble. For me it'd be also easier to forget
>     about it,
>     >> > but in the long term this is going to save problems.
>     >> >
>     >> >
>     >> > On 5/1/07, Henning Schmiedehausen < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>     >> >> Carlos,
>     >> >>
>     >> >> please stop this.
>     >> >>
>     >> >> For maven-1, we either keep texen and anakia in the velocity
>     group or
>     >> >> drop it completely from there. That is fine with me, no more
>     groups,
>     >> >> yadda, yadda.
>     >> >>
>     >> >> However, for maven-2 we will adhere to your 'standards'. This
>     >> means, the
>     >> >> packages go into org.apache.texen and org.apache.anakia. That is
>     >> the way
>     >> >> *you* as repo people recommended it.
>     >> >>
>     >> >> If you have a problem with the jar being twice in your repo,
>     well,
>     >> maybe
>     >> >> it is time that you get your act together and have an uniform
>     >> policy for
>     >> >> maven-1 and maven-2.
>     >> >>
>     >> >> If you do not agree here, then we will go to org.apache.texen and
>     >> >> org.apache.anakia and drop the jars in the velocity group. I
>     am not
>     >> >> really interested in second guessing what you want to have and
>     how you
>     >> >> intend to organize it. The maven repos are a distribution
>     >> mechanism, not
>     >> >> a policy tool.
>     >> >>
>     >> >> Please rename the .bak directories. Feel free to drop the jars
>     from
>     >> the
>     >> >> velocity group at your discretion, I do not really care.
>     >> >>
>     >> >>
>     >> >>
>     >> >>         Best regards
>     >> >>                 Henning
>     >> >>
>     >> >>
>     >> >>
>     >> >>
>     >> >> Carlos Sanchez schrieb:
>     >> >> > I guess these are the same as the ones in
>     >> >> >
>     >>
>     http://people.apache.org/repo/m1-ibiblio-rsync-repository/velocity/jars
>     >> >> >
>     >> >> > - they should be only in the m1 OR m2 repo
>     >> >> > - Putting them in two different groupIds is confusing
>     >> >> > - if they are subprojects of velocity they should be in
>     >> >> > org.apache.velocity.*
>     >> >> > - missing PGP signatures
>     >> >> >
>     >> >> > I've moved anakia and texen out of the way for the moment
>     (to .bak)
>     >> >> >
>     >> >> >
>     >> >> > On 30 Apr 2007 08:16:24 -0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
>     >> >> wrote:
>     >> >> >> Repository changed
>     >> >> >> ==================
>     >> >> >>
>     >> >> >> Repository:
>     >> /www/people.apache.org/repo/m2-ibiblio-rsync-repository/
>     >> >> >>
>     >> >> >> Added
>     >> >> >> -----
>     >> >> >> [henning] org/apache/anakia
>     >> >> >> [henning] org/apache/anakia/anakia
>     >> >> >> [henning] org/apache/anakia/anakia/1.0
>     >> >> >> [henning] org/apache/anakia/anakia/1.0/anakia-1.0.jar
>     >> >> >> [henning] org/apache/anakia/anakia/1.0/anakia- 1.0.jar.md5
>     >> >> >> [henning] org/apache/anakia/anakia/1.0/anakia-1.0.jar.sha1
>     >> >> >> [henning] org/apache/anakia/anakia/1.0/anakia-1.0.pom
>     >> >> >> [henning] org/apache/anakia/anakia/1.0/anakia- 1.0.pom.md5
>     >> >> >> [henning] org/apache/anakia/anakia/1.0/anakia-1.0.pom.sha1
>     >> >> >> [henning] org/apache/anakia/anakia/maven-metadata.xml
>     >> >> >> [henning] org/apache/anakia/anakia/maven- metadata.xml.md5
>     >> >> >> [henning] org/apache/anakia/anakia/maven-metadata.xml.sha1
>     >> >> >> [henning] org/apache/texen
>     >> >> >> [henning] org/apache/texen/texen
>     >> >> >> [henning] org/apache/texen/texen/1.0
>     >> >> >> [henning] org/apache/texen/texen/1.0/texen-1.0.jar
>     >> >> >> [henning] org/apache/texen/texen/1.0/texen- 1.0.jar.md5
>     >> >> >> [henning] org/apache/texen/texen/1.0/texen-1.0.jar.sha1
>     >> >> >> [henning] org/apache/texen/texen/1.0/texen-1.0.pom
>     >> >> >> [henning] org/apache/texen/texen/1.0/texen- 1.0.pom.md5
>     >> >> >> [henning] org/apache/texen/texen/1.0/texen-1.0.pom.sha1
>     >> >> >> [henning] org/apache/texen/texen/maven-metadata.xml
>     >> >> >> [henning] org/apache/texen/texen/maven- metadata.xml.md5
>     >> >> >> [henning] org/apache/texen/texen/maven-metadata.xml.sha1
>     >> >> >>
>     >> >> >> Removed
>     >> >> >> -------
>     >> >> >>
>     >> >> >
>     >> >> >
>     >> >>
>     >> >
>     >> >
>     >>
>     >
>     >
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