Hello,

You are right, the stumbling block is community.   I'll first download
the source of Texen and look at Jira issues to see how I can help. XmlGen can live on its side for now.

Regards,
Philippe

Will Glass-Husain wrote:
Hi,

Philippe sent me a personal note about this, since I am nominally the Texen
leader.  (listed on JIRA).

I finally had a chance to look at XMLGen.  I second Nathan's comments of a
few weeks ago.  Looks like a cool utility, adds nice features to Texen.
It's great to see Philippe's enthusiasm and interest in Texen.  I'd be
supportive of adding it in to Texen eventually.

I think the stumbling block is not technical but community.  Texen is a
semi-dormant project.  It's used by other libraries (notably Torque) so we
keep it around.  If we add code into the project with a developer who ends
up being absent, it's a hassle for the rest of us.

So, Philippe -- interested in joining the Texen community?  Suggest a few
patches, add unit tests, clean the project up.  (There's about 8 open issues
right now).  Answer any questions that come up on velocity-user.  Do that
for a while and I'll support adding XMLGen into Texen on the assumption that
we'll be able to actively support it.

Thanks again for sharing this with the rest of us.  In the meantime I'm glad
to see it's on the Powered by Velocity page.

Best, WILL





On 9/20/07, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 9/20/07, Philippe Collignon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,

I have just released an Ant task to generate code from XML files
and Velocity templates called XmlGen.

http://xmlgen.sourceforge.net

XmlGen makes XML nodes available to the Velocity template.
You can access XML elements by name, get their attributes value,
select some nodes with an XPath expression or loop on an element list
...
XmlGen is and extension of Velocity Texen Ant Task.
The documentation for this looks great!   How does this compare to
other xml-generation/transformation Velocity projects (namely DVSL and
Anakia).  Not that there isn't room for more, there always is; i'm
just curious how you think it compares.

Could anybody tell me if this could take part as a contribution
to velocity project ?  Who should I contact ?  What are the
requirements ?
If it's a large codebase or is intended to be a separate project (as
opposed to an enhancement to an existing project), then it would have
to go through the incubator:
http://apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#incubator

If it could be refactored to be just a patch(es) to enhance Texen,
then i think you would just need to open a JIRA issue and attach the
files there.  Of course, then there's the question of eventually
getting you commit access so that you can work on it directly, so we
don't always have to commit your patches for you.  For that to happen,
we'd want to see evidence that you'll stick around (not just dump code
once and disappear) and help out on the mailing lists.  So, more than
anything it's a matter of seeing comittment over time (we're talking
months, not weeks).  The reason for the high standard is that
abandoned code becomes a weight on the rest of the project(s) and that
commit access to one Velocity project means access to all of them.

In any case, you should definitely announce your project on these
lists (as you've done), add some links to it on the wiki (like the
PoweredBy page and anywhere else that seems relevant), and generally
promote connection between XmlGen and Velocity.

Philippe

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