Hi Gianluca,

On Dec 10, 2007 11:00 AM, Gianluca Turconi
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [Templates and License-terms]
> the issue is slightly different. In fact, according to the Policies and
> Terms of Use page <http://www.sunsource.net/TUPPCP.html>, section 4.c,
> all materials posted on OOo website, included those documents/templates
> whose author is not expressly mentioned, are granted under:


"You hereby grant to the Hosts and all Users  [...]"
> ***Quotation***
> a royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, non-exclusive and
> fully sub-licensable right and license under Your intellectual property
> rights to reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, create
> derivative works from, distribute, perform, display and use Your
> Submissions (in whole or part) and to incorporate it in other works in
> any form, media, or technology now known or later developed, all subject
> to the obligation to retain any copyright notices included in Your
> Submissions. All Users, the Hosts, and their sublicensees are
> responsible for any modifications they make to the Submissions of others.
> ***End of Quotation***
>
> So my question is: if I don't know who owns "the intellectual property
> rights to reproduce..."

That is the point: "You", the one who uploads stuff/posts stuff to the
site, grant
the right to reproduce to both the host (CollabNet/Sun, the ones running the
servers), and other users (regular visitors)

> of such a template because that person is not
> mentioned anywhere, can I quote the hosts (which one?) as my or other
> translators' sublicenser under the TUPPCP, section 4.c terms?

It is. "You" is defined at the very beginning, under "Definitions"

> In a easier way: can I write "(c) 2007, Sun Microsystem Inc., released
> under TUUPCP, section 4.c terms and conditions" on a package that
> includes such templates?

No, Since you're not Sun Microsystems, and probably not a representative
who can act in Sun's name. While you can grant the copyright to another entity,
this is something different than claiming a certain piece has
originated from the
other entity. So copyright is either you/the italian project/the authors of the
templates.

And of course you can refer to the site-wide terms of use.

> This solution seems possible according to TUPPCP 4.d section (Moral
> Rights), but I'd like to have a specific endorsement to do this action.

IANAL, so I cannot give any real advice here, just putting someone else's
name under stuff that person didn't create or approve just doesn't sound right
to me.

> Any suggestion/clarification is welcomed.

German-lang project put their templates under LGPL, to ease distribution with
OOo itself.

ciao
Christian

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