Hi all,
Again, happy new year....
comments inline.
On 2007-12-30, at 15:54 , :murb: [maarten brouwers] wrote:
Hi all,
The work on the new homepage seems to have slowed down quite a lot.
Maybe all are tired, or most are just kidnapped by family/
friends/... ;)
Holidays? :-)
Both kinda apply to me, but I was just wondering, could everyone who
is still working on the redesign effort inform us and give a status
update?
I'm inclined to think that we have reached somehow an agreement on
the style and approach, which is currently best visualized by
murb_proposal1 (modified Ivan_minimal), see http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Website/Proposals#Action_statement_based
+1
If no one has started yet, my idea proposal is as follows. We start
to work on in the website.openoffice.org/tryouts area, create a new
subdir, and start converting Ivan's design elements (see below) to
HTML. Of course we try to adhere to the standards, in our case XHTML
strict (but we don't need to be religious about it). Working in the
tryouts area gives us the chance to collaborate on fine tuning the
design.
Sounds good to me.
Here is what I do have to do: inform those clamouring at Sun for a new
homepage where we stand. They are delighted to hear of progress, of
course, but I trust Maarten's management and approach and the
community's (you) work. However, having models to show a larger
audience would be great.
I've also asked to see if we can get a staging server... I'll let you
know as soon as I do.
By using nonav just after the domain, we can turn off all, hence the
name, surrounding navigation that the collab system likes to impose
on all the pages it serves, try e.g. http://website.openoffice.org/nonav/tryouts/
.
Let's try to strive for an first half of Januari launch.
Sounds good....
We'll bump in to the issues during creating the html. Since we have
still some unresolved issues, there are a few things we shouldn't
fix yet (and should thus be easily modifiable):
- the top right menu
- as much of the text within the body (well, think in general, plain
text is better than text in bitmaps, for accessibility/space etc.)
Furthermore there is some legacy we have to adhere to for now, a
table for the body, some pages rely on the fact that tables are
used. Aside from the use of tables here, I'd like to see only tables
if layout is otherwise too complex (but almost anything is possible
with div's and css). Let's remember, OpenOffice.org is all about
open standards, so let's adhere to other standards as well, and use
them properly.
<!--header, total freedom in markup -->
<table id="main" summary="body">
<tr>
<td id="navcol">
<div id="navcolumn"> <!-- contains navigation -->
</div>
</td>
<td id="midcol">
<div id="bodycol"> <!-- contains all body text-->
</div>
</td>
</tr>
</table>
<!-- footer total freedom in markup -->
About the one click download issue: Louis informed me Sun is already
working on this. No need for us to worry about this. This leaves us
more time to deal with the page that needs to be presented when one
click fails for a user (which is one of the main concerns for those
who have raised issues, aside from the complexity)
I'll find out where Sun stands on this; people just returned from
holidays Monday....
Note that I haven't starting anything yet, I'm polling first whether
I'm not duplicating efforts here now. So please, if you are already
working on it (Ivan, Randy, Nik?) please let me/us, know soon!
g.,
Maarten
Thanks Maarten and thanks, Ivan!
Ciao
louis
Ivan explained where to find his material:
I've attached a Fireworks-editable PNG (the format I work in), as
well
as a PSD version (compressed) to the issue
(http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=84067)
Alternatively, you can download a zip file with both formats from
http://www.patentpending.co.nz/images/openoffice/minimalist.zip
(137KB)
I have done the same with the Overkill2 mod, which has bits and
pieces
that might be of use (like the footer mentioned above)
http://www.patentpending.co.nz/images/openoffice/overkill2mod.zip
(336KB)
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