Do we really need to sign a PDF?

Would there be a better way to collect the data that we need?

On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 at 02:51, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I think that's a great idea. Back when I trialed DocuSign, they had a
> feature for online form filling from a PDF you upload. I wonder if
> there's a way we can integrate more easily with form filling apps like
> that.
>
> On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 at 16:56, Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Seems to me that we could improve the CLA submitting page to explain how to 
> > sign the .pdf.
> >
> > On my Mac, I can save the icla.pdf from Safari, open it with Preview, fill 
> > the form with the keyboard and then apply a signature to the form via 
> > Tools/Annotate/Signature, "save as" myicla.pdf and send it off as an 
> > attachment to an email.
> >
> > Most of the received .jpg files are printed and then scanned with a phone.
> >
> > But modern phones also allow you to download the icla.pdf and fill the 
> > form, including to add a signature. You can then share it to mail and send 
> > it off.
> >
> > I've just tested this on the live site. The first attempt used Google 
> > Chrome to navigate to the icla.pdf, opened with Adobe Acrobat, filled the 
> > form (only one field as an exaple), signed it with a pretty good signature, 
> > and then shared a link to a document in the cloud which is not acceptable. 
> > The second attempt shared a copy of the document which was attached to an 
> > email message. The second attempt can produce an acceptable iclaxxx.pdf 
> > suitable for filing.
> >
> > So I think we should be able to document a few good ways to get a signed 
> > ICLA without printing or scanning.
> >
> > WDYT?
> >
> > Craig
> >
> > > On Jan 23, 2021, at 8:00 AM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Surely it would be simpler to do a screen print of the image?
> > >
> > > However, both options are likely to degrade the quality of the scan.
> > >
> > > Also, it's not essential to convert everything to PDF.
> > >
> > > On Sat, 23 Jan 2021 at 15:32, Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> If you have a modern all-in-one printer. You can print the image and 
> > >> then scan to pdf.
> > >>
> > >> Does the secretarial team have that equipment?
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >> Dave
> > >>
> > >> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>
> > >>> On Jan 23, 2021, at 4:50 AM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> On Sat, 23 Jan 2021 at 00:48, Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com> 
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Hi Sebb,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Since years ago we have converted ICLAs to .pdf, and I think this is a 
> > >>>> good approach.
> > >>>
> > >>> I was not suggesting that we should abandon doing so, but that it was
> > >>> an alternative.
> > >>>
> > >>>> I asked the submitter to send a single .pdf and he did so. So this 
> > >>>> case is closed.
> > >>>
> > >>> Fine, but that might not always be possible.
> > >>>
> > >>>> Craig
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>> On Jan 15, 2021, at 4:02 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Looks like there is an issue with the image which img2pdf cannot 
> > >>>>> handle:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> https://gitlab.mister-muffin.de/josch/img2pdf/issues/61#note_912
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Is it not possible to save the JPGs without converting to PDF first?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Fri, 15 Jan 2021 at 06:46, Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com> 
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Currently in the secretary queue there is a two-page document for 
> > >>>>>> Wei Li. Trying to pdf-ize either page results in an error.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Exception: #<RuntimeError: Failed to convert liwei-ICLA-1.jpg to PDF>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Any ideas?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>> Craig
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Craig L Russell
> > >>>>>> c...@apache.org
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Craig L Russell
> > >>>> c...@apache.org
> > >>>>
> >
> > Craig L Russell
> > c...@apache.org
> >

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