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Steve Loughran commented on WHIRR-682:
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absolute limits for this user
{code}
$ nova absolute-limits
+--------------------------+-------+
| Name                     | Value |
+--------------------------+-------+
| maxImageMeta             | 20    |
| maxPersonality           | 5     |
| maxPersonalitySize       | 10240 |
| maxSecurityGroupRules    | 20    |
| maxSecurityGroups        | 10    |
| maxServerMeta            | 20    |
| maxTotalCores            | -1    |
| maxTotalFloatingIps      | 5     |
| maxTotalInstances        | 100   |
| maxTotalKeypairs         | 100   |
| maxTotalPrivateNetworks  | 0     |
| maxTotalRAMSize          | 66560 |
| maxTotalVolumeGigabytes  | -1    |
| maxTotalVolumes          | 0     |
| totalCoresUsed           | 0     |
| totalInstancesUsed       | 0     |
| totalKeyPairsUsed        | 0     |
| totalPrivateNetworksUsed | 0     |
| totalRAMUsed             | 0     |
| totalSecurityGroupsUsed  | 0     |
| totalVolumeGigabytesUsed | 0     |
| totalVolumesUsed         | 0     |
+--------------------------+-------+
{code}

none of these were exceeded.

The rate limits are a lot tighter
{code}
$ nova rate-limits
+--------+----------------+-------+--------+--------+--------------------------+
| Verb   | URI            | Value | Remain | Unit   | Next_Available           |
+--------+----------------+-------+--------+--------+--------------------------+
| DELETE | /servers       | 4     | 4      | MINUTE | 2012-11-14T21:59:03.304Z |
| GET    | *              | 100   | 100    | MINUTE | 2012-11-14T21:59:03.304Z |
| GET    | /servers       | 25    | 25     | MINUTE | 2012-11-14T21:59:03.304Z |
| POST   | *              | 100   | 100    | MINUTE | 2012-11-14T21:59:03.304Z |
| POST   | /os-networksv2 | 100   | 100    | DAY    | 2012-11-14T21:59:03.304Z |
| POST   | /servers       | 4     | 4      | MINUTE | 2012-11-14T21:59:03.304Z |
| POST   | /servers       | 1000  | 1000   | DAY    | 2012-11-14T21:59:03.304Z |
+--------+----------------+-------+--------+--------+--------------------------+
{code}

# There's a nominal limit on how many servers you can create of 4/minute, 
though it seemed to kick in earlier. 
# if there's really a limit on deletions of 4/minute, that's going to impact 
deletion too.

There is a retry handler in the JCloud requester -you could have one that 
parsed the exception, read its wait-time, slept until then and tried again 
(with some jitter and backoff for parallel requests). But how to set that from 
Whirr?
                
> OpenStack Nova throttling prevents Whirr from bringing up clusters with 
> multiple nodes
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: WHIRR-682
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIRR-682
>             Project: Whirr
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: core
>    Affects Versions: 0.9.0
>         Environment: whirr.provider=rackspace-cloudservers-uk
>            Reporter: Steve Loughran
>
> You can't create a 3 node hadoop cluster on OpenStack Nova, because it 
> rate-limits VM requests (in time and per-day). The endpoints send a 413-coded 
> message, but this is not detected as a retryable action

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