The reason I've added the night background with Javascript is so that those
without JS enabled don't have it cover everything permanently. I can the put
script to make the backdrop inline, up at the top of the body, and it'll
come up before anything loads. (why I didn't do that in the first place I
don't know) My current working model has this done, and I've tweaked the
animation a little (the floor fades in, then the text, then a little pause,
then the sunrise) - i'll upload it this afternoon. (it's 9:00 am ATM)

And, yeah, It's pretty clear it doesn't need to work in IE5.5 (your stats
surprised me a little - I was expecting it to about as popular as opera),
but the issues are the same as in IE6 - which is at 13% - enough to be
worthwhile (unfortunately). 
I think that all I need to do to make it work in IE6 is:add some proprietary
code so IE understands the transparent PNG for the 'wicket' text.
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/pngopacity/
add a conditional comment that give #information a specific width.
and remove the underlines from the tabs - IE6 requires that they are links
to use the :hover selector.
I should be able to test this when I have computers at school (1.5hr)
Hopefully it's ok with you that the CSS won't validate - otherwise you're
stuck having it work <90% of the time.

It's also surprising that so many people have 1280x1024 monitors — it's not
the standard ratio or the widescreen one. - 1280x960 is.

Do you have stats on the browser window sizes? It's mostly a curiousity, but
it could also be useful for this… 


Martijn Dashorst wrote:
> 
> Total and utter Coolness.
> I think you can delay the start of the animation a tad, say ~.5 or 1
> second.
> Let the folks get accustomed to what they are seeing. Perhaps make sure
> the
> background and such of the 'night' are the starting point (i.e. not
> setting
> them with js, but directly in the css), this will mitigate the
> transitions,
> and add extra time to the animation.
> 
> Stats for the site:
> 
> firefox: 67% (2.0.0.11 : 35%, 2.0.0.9: 32%, 2.0.0.10 : 15%, 2.0.0.8 : 6%,
> 2.0.0.6 : 3%, etc.)
> ie: 23% (6.0 : 57%, 7.0: 43%, 5.5: 0.18%, 4.01 : 0.04%)
> opera: 4% (9.23 : 33%, 9.24: 31%, 9.50 9%, 9.22: 8%, 9.21: 4%)
> Safari : 4% (523.10 : 53%, 523.12: 26%, 419.3: 9%, 523.12.9: 6.8%)
> Mozilla: 1%
> Camino: 0.3%
> Konqueror: 0.3%
> 
> So I think you can safely skip IE 5.5 compatibility.
> 
> Screen resolutions:
> 1280x1024 : 33%
> 1024x768: 19%
> 1280x800: 11%
> 1680x1050: 10%
> 1440x900 7%
> 1600x1200 5%
> 1400x1050 5%
> 1920x1200 4%
> 1152x864 2%
> 1280x768 1%
> 1280x960 1%
> 800x600 0.59%
> 
> Martijn
> 
> On Dec 16, 2007 2:47 PM, WalkerP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> I've currently got a mostly working version of the page that I've tested
>> on:
>> Safari 3 (which is where it looks best due to support of the
>> 'text-shadow'
>> CSS property & rounded corners)
>> Firefox 2.0.0.11 & IE7 (both look the same)
>> IE6 & IE 5.5 (It failed these tests, as neither browers supports
>> 'max-width'
>> or alpha transparent PNGs - but both issues should be easily fixable with
>> a
>> little JS.)
>>
>> As yet, I haven't been able to see what it looks like in Firefox 1.5,
>> Opera,
>> or Safari 2, so if anyone has access to these apps, please take a screen
>> shot…
>>
>> The site is useable with or without javascript enabled (the only
>> difference
>> is that there's no animation without JS), and at resolutions from 800x600
>> up
>> (though it looks better on 1024x768+ - more white space)
>>
>> I've uploaded the page here: http://wicket.awardspace.com/ (the hosting's
>> pretty bad, but hey, it's free) and I've attached a zip of screenshots of
>> the page with different browsers
>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p14361677/Wicket%2BScreenshots.zip
>> Wicket+Screenshots.zip  As you may notice, Safari's menu looks markedly
>> better than other browsers' (esp. IE). Currently, I'm not entirely sure
>> how
>> the menus should be organised (help?) - but once the menu structure
>> itself
>> finalised, I'll be able to make them look just as good on the other
>> browsers. For now, it's using scarcely-supported CSS3 to do the rounded
>> borders and drop shadows.
>>
>> And, just now - after uploading the site I realised something I hadn't
>> remembered to consider before - currently the page loads & displays in
>> its
>> entirety, then it animates. Not particularly appealing. That's easily
>> fixable (I just need to move the JS that draws the navy cover over the
>> page
>> higher up in the code, and have it run before the DOM is fully
>> downloaded,
>> -
>> then have the animation run when the download's finished.)
>>
>> To-Do:
>> Make Page work with IE 6 (and maybe 5.5)
>> Shrink page & resources size
>> Improve & finalise Menu Structure
>> Re-style menus so they look better cross-browser
>> Various Minor Tweaks
>> Whenever
>>
>> http://code.google.com/p/google-highly-open-participation-asf/issues/detail?id=51
>> Issue 51  is resolved, put it's result into the page
>> Anything I've forgotten?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Martijn Dashorst wrote:
>> >
>> > Again, I'm not going to maintain the swf file: I don't know the format,
>> > nor
>> > have I any intention to learn it. So for me the format is off limits. I
>> > also
>> > think that in the advent of adblock and other plugin blockers the
>> format
>> > is
>> > flawed for a entry point of any website.
>> >
>> > I really do like the rising sun idea. This has to stay :)
>> > But the coffee cup is way off: got to get that thing out of your head.
>> >
>>
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