Generics only and really simple stuff that would break api for 1.3.x
(like bugs that need fixing but are api breaks for 1.3.x)

On 3/23/08, Igor Vaynberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i assigned a bunch of stuff to 1.3.3 that i think would be nice to get
> done for that release. if we have time great, if not it will have to
> go to 1.3.4.
>
> i have also moved a bunch of stuff to 1.5-M1 (whatever that version
> will be called).
>
> i think we should move everything from 1.4-M1 to 1.5-M1 as 1.4 will
> now be generics only. anyone objects to me doing this?
>
> -igor
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Igor Vaynberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > we should all go through the open issues and put whatever we think we
> >  need to fix for 1.3.3 into that version and remove things from there
> >  that we dont think we need to fix
> >
> >  -igor
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Igor Vaynberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >  > i would say lets do it next sunday the 30th. that will give us a week
> >  >  to fix whatever we need to.
> >  >
> >  >  -igor
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >  On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Johan Compagner
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  >  > that sounds fine, but when are we planning for 1.3.3?
> >  >  >  next week sunday evening as a cut off?
> >  >  >
> >  >  >
> >  >  >
> >  >  >  johan
> >  >  >
> >  >  >
> >  >  >  On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 8:37 PM, Igor Vaynberg
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  >  >  wrote:
> >  >  >
> >  >  >  > ok, can we at least wait for 1.3.3 and kill most of the
> annoyances in that
> >  >  >  > one
> >  >  >  >
> >  >  >  > -igor
> >  >  >  >
> >  >  >  >
> >  >  >  > On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Johan Compagner
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  >  >  > wrote:
> >  >  >  > > no
> >  >  >  > >  not first WAIT for 1.3.4 and then start working on 1.4
> >  >  >  > >  that a serialized threading model. That is horrible
> >  >  >  > >  We need to move on. We are standing still now for weeks.
> >  >  >  > >
> >  >  >  > >  I dont mind having a trunk and 1 branch for fixes
> >  >  >  > >  thats just fine i can cope with that.
> >  >  >  > >
> >  >  >  > >  So i can work on 1.3.4 and 1.4 at the same time.
> >  >  >  > >  And then we can pretty much release 1.3.4 and 1.4 at the same
> time
> >  >  >  > >
> >  >  >  > >  johan
> >  >  >  > >
> >  >  >  > >
> >  >  >  > >  On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Igor Vaynberg
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >  >  >  > >
> >  >  >  > >  wrote:
> >  >  >  > >
> >  >  >  > >
> >  >  >  > >
> >  >  >  > >  > yes, i thought the idea was to first release 1.3.3 and 1.3.4
> if
> >  >  >  > >  > needed, and then branch. if we branch now, all those bug
> fixes in
> >  >  >  > jira
> >  >  >  > >  > hava to be applied to two branches.
> >  >  >  > >  >
> >  >  >  > >  > -igor
> >  >  >  > >  >
> >  >  >  > >  >
> >  >  >  > >  > On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 6:10 AM, Martijn Dashorst
> >  >  >  > >  > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  >  >  > >  > > The problem is that we then have to maintain 2 branches,
> which
> >  >  >  > sucks.
> >  >  >  > >  > >
> >  >  >  > >  > >  Martijn
> >  >  >  > >  > >
> >  >  >  > >  > >
> >  >  >  > >  > >
> >  >  >  > >  > >  On 3/22/08, Johan Compagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  >  >  > >  > >  > thats my idea also,
> >  >  >  > >  > >  >  we can start (if it was me) now with the 1.4 (thats
> then trunk)
> >  >  >  > >  > >  >  and have a branch 1.3.
> >  >  >  > >  > >  >
> >  >  >  > >  > >  >  So that we can work on the bugs and make a fully java
> 5 1.4version
> >  >  >  > >  > (and fix
> >  >  >  > >  > >  >  bugs that are api breaks if we really dont want those
> api
> >  >  >  > breaks in
> >  >  >  > >  > 1.3)
> >  >  >  > >  > >  >
> >  >  >  > >  > >  >  johan
> >  >  >  > >  > >  >
> >  >  >  > >  > >  >
> >  >  >  > >  > >  >  On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Timo Rantalaiho <
> >  >  >  > >  > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  >  >  > >  > >  >  wrote:
> >  >  >  > >  > >  >
> >  >  >  > >  > >  >
> >  >  >  > >  > >  >  > On Fri, 14 Mar 2008, Philip A. Chapman wrote:
> >  >  >  > >  > >  >  > > against 2.0.  So far, I've fought off the urge to
> convert
> >  >  >  > to 1.3simply
> >  >  >  > >  > >  >  > > because it doesn't make sense to rewrite for 1.3,
> then
> >  >  >  > again for
> >  >  >  > >  > 1.4.
> >  >  >  > >  > >  >  > > Also, these projects make *heavy* use of generics
> and it
> >  >  >  > would
> >  >  >  > >  > be a
> >  >  >  > >  > >  >  > > terrible pain to re-write them without.  I'd
> rather go
> >  >  >  > straight
> >  >  >  > >  > to the
> >  >  >  > >  > >  >  > > generics version.  Quit punishing us 2.0 early
> adopters
> >  >  >  > already.
> >  >  >  > >  > >  >  >
> >  >  >  > >  > >  >  > That's an important consideration, but another
> minority that
> >  >  >  > >  > >  >  > should be considered are those that remain stuck
> with Java
> >  >  >  > >  > >  >  > 1.4 for a while more.
> >  >  >  > >  > >  >  >
> >  >  >  > >  > >  >  > To strike a balance wihout having to apply fixes to
> several
> >  >  >  > >  > >  >  > branches, it might be a good idea to fix the most
> pressing
> >  >  >  > >  > >  >  > remaining 1.3 issues in 1.3.3 (and perhaps 1.3.4 if
> needed),
> >  >  >  > >  > >  >  > and after that do the 1.4 == 1.3 + generics release
> and drop
> >  >  >  > >  > >  >  > 1.3 (and Java 1.4) support as voted.
> >  >  >  > >  > >  >  >
> >  >  >  > >  > >  >  > Best wishes,
> >  >  >  > >  > >  >  > Timo
> >  >  >  > >  > >  >  >
> >  >  >  > >  > >  >  > --
> >  >  >  > >  > >  >  > Timo Rantalaiho
> >  >  >  > >  > >  >  > Reaktor Innovations Oy    <URL: http://www.ri.fi/ >
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