why are we even talking about it. nothing is broken in wicket,
correct? you are not forced to use it in your code. we like it. it
does not impact you. where is the problem?

-igor

On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Johan Compagner <[email protected]> wrote:
> you are forgetting that the value that is stored is also in mem
> So if the value is an Integer object that is again an 4 bytes ci, 4 bytes oi
> and 4 bytes value
>
> But the IntHashmap is far from complex, i even like it if i just have int ->
> value (which is where it is used for)
> else i have to wrap those ints in a Integer object first (or auto box it
> which i dont like to much)
>
> so it is a big quicker, its smaller in mem size, and is easier to use when
> you just have int keys.. i dont see any drawback
>
> johan
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 19:42, Tuomas Kärkkäinen 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The int in Entry is a 32bit value so it takes 4 bytes of memory.
>>
>> In a 32bit JVM, a reference, ie. a pointer takes 4 bytes.  In a 64bit JVM
>> it takes 8 bytes.
>>
>> HashMap's Entry consumes on a 32bit jvm:
>> 4 bytes for the class identifier,
>> 4 bytes for the object identifier,
>> 4 bytes for the key
>> 4 bytes for the value
>> 4 bytes for the hash
>> 4 bytes for next
>>
>> a total of 24 bytes.
>>
>> and on a 64bit jvm
>> 4 bytes for the class identifier,
>> 4 bytes for the object identifier,
>> 8 bytes for the key
>> 8 bytes for the value
>> 4 bytes for the hash
>> 8 bytes for next
>>
>> 36 bytes.
>>
>> IntHashMap's entry takes:
>> 4 bytes for the class identifier,
>> 4 bytes for the object identifier,
>> 4 bytes for key
>> 4 bytes for value
>> 4 bytes for next
>> 20 total on 32bits
>> or
>> 4 bytes for the class identifier,
>> 4 bytes for the object identifier,
>> 4 bytes for key
>> 8 bytes for value
>> 8 bytes for next
>> 28 total on 64bits
>>
>> java.util.AbstractMap$SimpleEntry<K,V> and consequently
>> java.util.concurrent.ConcurrentHashMap$WriteThroughEntry
>> only has serialVersionUID, key and value.
>> which is 24 bytes on 32bit and 32bytes on 64bit.
>>
>> As an aside, on my core2, the 32-bit hotspot seems to align objects on
>> 8byte boundaries, so 20 and 24 bytes both consume 24 bytes.
>>
>> My personal conclusion would be that if there is a memory saving advantage
>> to using IntHashMap, it is negligible.  Further, the accidental complexity
>> IntHashMap introduces outweighs the memory savings.
>>
>> Br,
>> Tuomas
>>
>> Quoting Johan Compagner <[email protected]>:
>>
>>  the serialized size doesnt have to be that different if you use Integer
>>> key
>>> objects because hashmap has its own special serialization where it doesnt
>>> have to store everything thats in mem
>>> but just the key/value combination
>>>
>>>
>>> But in memory we have an Entry object:
>>>
>>> HashMap.Entry implements Map.Entry {
>>>        final Object key;
>>>        Object value;
>>>        final int hash;
>>>        Entry next;
>>>
>>> IntHashMap.Entry
>>>    {
>>>        final int key;
>>>        Object value;
>>>        Entry next;
>>>
>>> so you see thats one reference less per entry.
>>>
>>> Also the lookup could be faster because it doesnt have to calculate the
>>> hash
>>> on for example strings.
>>>
>>> The IntHashMap just skips over the object key hash and gives you the
>>> option
>>> to give that hash yourself.
>>> This only works ofcourse for the same type of objects where the hash is
>>> always different for any object, so it wont work as a replacement of
>>> String
>>> key, but it does for Integer key
>>>
>>> johan
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 09:43, Tuomas Kärkkäinen  <
>>> [email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>  Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I couldn't gather from the javadoc when IntHashMap should be preferred
>>>> over
>>>> a regular HashMap, i.e. how many objects per map, what type of objects
>>>> etc.
>>>>
>>>> I wrote a little program (copy pasted at the bottom) to see how much the
>>>> size difference was for IntHashMap, java.util.HashMap and
>>>> java.util.concurrent.ConcurrentHashMap.
>>>>
>>>> for 1 instance of new org.apache.wicket.Page(){};
>>>> for 10 instances of new org.apache.wicket.Page(){};
>>>> for 100 instances of new
>>>> org.apache.wicket.ajax.form.AjaxFormSubmitTestPage();
>>>>
>>>> Br,
>>>> Tuomas
>>>>
>>>> the results are as follows, respectively:
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> map implementation: org.apache.wicket.util.collections.IntHashMap -- size
>>>> of outputstream: 54 bytes.
>>>> map implementation: java.util.HashMap -- size of outputstream: 57 bytes.
>>>> map implementation: java.util.concurrent.ConcurrentHashMap -- size of
>>>> outputstream: 282 bytes.
>>>> HashMap is 5.556% larger than IntHashMap.
>>>> ConcurrentHashMap is 422.222% larger than IntHashMap.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> map implementation: org.apache.wicket.util.collections.IntHashMap -- size
>>>> of outputstream: 369 bytes.
>>>> map implementation: java.util.HashMap -- size of outputstream: 399 bytes.
>>>> map implementation: java.util.concurrent.ConcurrentHashMap -- size of
>>>> outputstream: 624 bytes.
>>>> HashMap is 8.130% larger than IntHashMap.
>>>> ConcurrentHashMap is 69.106% larger than IntHashMap.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> map implementation: org.apache.wicket.util.collections.IntHashMap -- size
>>>> of outputstream: 24272 bytes.
>>>> map implementation: java.util.HashMap -- size of outputstream: 24572
>>>> bytes.
>>>> map implementation: java.util.concurrent.ConcurrentHashMap -- size of
>>>> outputstream: 24797 bytes.
>>>> HashMap is 1.236% larger than IntHashMap.
>>>> ConcurrentHashMap is 2.163% larger than IntHashMap.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----------
>>>>
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>>>> package org.apache.wicket.util.collections;
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> import java.io.IOException;
>>>> import java.util.HashMap;
>>>> import java.util.concurrent.ConcurrentHashMap;
>>>>
>>>> import org.apache.wicket.Page;
>>>> import org.apache.wicket.util.io.ByteArrayOutputStream;
>>>> import org.apache.wicket.util.io.WicketObjectOutputStream;
>>>> import org.apache.wicket.util.tester.WicketTester;
>>>>
>>>> public class Tester
>>>> {
>>>>       private static final int NUMBER_OF_PAGES = 1;
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>       public static void main(String[] args) throws Exception
>>>>       {
>>>>               int intHashMapSize = writeMap(populatedIntHashMap());
>>>>               int hashMapSize = writeMap(populatedHashMap());
>>>>               int concurrentHashMapSize =
>>>> writeMap(populatedConcurrentHashMap());
>>>>               double hashMapIsLargerPercetange =
>>>> ((Double.valueOf(hashMapSize) / intHashMapSize) - 1) * 100;
>>>>               double concurrentHashMapIsLargerPercetange =
>>>> ((Double.valueOf(concurrentHashMapSize) / intHashMapSize) - 1) * 100;
>>>>               System.out.printf("HashMap is %.3f%% larger than
>>>> IntHashMap.%n", hashMapIsLargerPercetange);
>>>>               System.out.printf("ConcurrentHashMap is %.3f%% larger than
>>>> IntHashMap.%n",
>>>>                       concurrentHashMapIsLargerPercetange);
>>>>       }
>>>>
>>>>       private static int writeMap(Object map) throws IOException
>>>>       {
>>>>               ByteArrayOutputStream out = new ByteArrayOutputStream();
>>>>               WicketObjectOutputStream objectOutputStream = new
>>>> WicketObjectOutputStream(out);
>>>>               objectOutputStream.writeObject(map);
>>>>               System.out.printf("map implementation: %s -- size of
>>>> outputstream: %d bytes.%n",
>>>>                       map.getClass().getName(), out.size());
>>>>               return out.size();
>>>>       }
>>>>
>>>>       private static HashMap<Integer, Page> populatedHashMap()
>>>>       {
>>>>               new WicketTester();
>>>>               HashMap<Integer, Page> map = new HashMap<Integer, Page>();
>>>>               for (int i = 0; i < NUMBER_OF_PAGES; i++)
>>>>               {
>>>>                       map.put(i, createPage());
>>>>               }
>>>>               return map;
>>>>       }
>>>>
>>>>       private static ConcurrentHashMap<Integer, Page>
>>>> populatedConcurrentHashMap()
>>>>       {
>>>>               new WicketTester();
>>>>               ConcurrentHashMap<Integer, Page> map = new
>>>> ConcurrentHashMap<Integer, Page>();
>>>>               for (int i = 0; i < NUMBER_OF_PAGES; i++)
>>>>               {
>>>>                       map.put(i, createPage());
>>>>               }
>>>>               return map;
>>>>       }
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>       private static IntHashMap<Page> populatedIntHashMap()
>>>>       {
>>>>               new WicketTester();
>>>>               IntHashMap<Page> map = new IntHashMap<Page>();
>>>>               for (int i = 0; i < NUMBER_OF_PAGES; i++)
>>>>               {
>>>>                       map.put(i, createPage());
>>>>               }
>>>>               return map;
>>>>       }
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>       private static Page createPage()
>>>>       {
>>>>               Page page = new Page()
>>>>               {
>>>>               };
>>>>               page.detach();
>>>>               return page;
>>>>
>>>>       }
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Igor Vaynberg wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  exactly what the javadoc says, its a map that does not need to store a
>>>>> key object. so it is smaller than a regular hashmap when serialized or
>>>>> kept in memory.
>>>>>
>>>>> -igor
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Tuomas Kärkkäinen
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was looking at IntHashMap in wicket trunk.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I couldn't figure out what it does.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The implementation of hashcode for Integer is value, and the autoboxing
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> int to Integer comes out to Integer.valueOf(int) which is implemented
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> an
>>>>>> array lookup for Integers in the range of -128 to 127, and beyond that
>>>>>> it's
>>>>>> just new Integer(int).  Page ids start at zero for each page in each
>>>>>> session
>>>>>> so most of the time they will be between zero and 127.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Br,
>>>>>> Tuomas
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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