my vote is to pack it all into 1.4. once 1.4 is out we cannot have any
api-breaking changes, so some things might be hard to move into 1.4.1

-igor

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Jeremy Thomerson
<[email protected]> wrote:
> So, I have created the submodule and moved the inspector bug as well as the
> new stateless checker over to the submodule.  The code is in my experimental
> branch, and tagged [1].
>
> Question: do we want to include this in 1.4?  In theory, it shouldn't be
> able to break anything because nobody's been using it unless they were
> compiling wicket-examples as a jar themselves.  In which case, this will be
> a welcome change.
>
> Next question: I'm going to continue with the rest of the things we
> discussed in my branch.  Will we want to include any of that in 1.4?  Or
> should it wait until 1.4.1?
>
> --
> Jeremy Thomerson
> http://www.wickettraining.com
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Jeremy Thomerson <[email protected]
>> wrote:
>
>> Oops - forgot link:
>>
>> [1] - http://www.symfony-project.org/
>>
>> --
>> Jeremy Thomerson
>> http://www.wickettraining.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Jeremy Thomerson <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes - I agree.  I think that would be the next step.  I've been doing some
>>> work on a PHP site lately - which at first I thought I was going to hate.
>>> But everyone at that company only knew PHP - so I chose to go with Symfony
>>> [1] - and I've enjoyed it. Anyway, the point is - they have a great floating
>>> toolbar at the top right of the screen in development mode that gives you
>>> each query that was run, logging output for that request, timing for
>>> different cycles of the request, etc.  It's great.
>>>
>>> I'd love to build something like it that would allow you to register
>>> various contributors to add different details to the debug bar.
>>>
>>> But I think that the proposal below is sort of the first step towards
>>> that.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jeremy Thomerson
>>> http://www.wickettraining.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 2:42 AM, Igor Vaynberg 
>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> martijn and matej and i talked about having a floating console that
>>>> can be enabled at runtime and that would host all these kinds of
>>>> tools. so basically extending or  encorporating our existing ajax
>>>> console into something much more powerful. seems like if we move away
>>>> from having these tools as pages and making them panels we can create
>>>> a console.
>>>>
>>>> -igor
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Jeremy Thomerson
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> > Please review WICKET-670 [1] and give your input.  The idea is
>>>> basically
>>>> > that we want to be able to use the inspector bug and associated
>>>> > development-time utilities in our applications.  Currently, the
>>>> inspector
>>>> > bug is built into wicket-examples, which builds as a war, which makes
>>>> it
>>>> > difficult to include in your app.  We just added the
>>>> @StatelessComponent
>>>> > annotation and associated checker to wicket-core which is meant for
>>>> > development time error catching.
>>>> >
>>>> > I'm proposing that we:
>>>> >
>>>> >   - Create subpackage wicket-devutils (by subpackage, I mean a maven
>>>> >   submodule, etc, similar to wicket-extensions - lives as a folder in
>>>> the
>>>> >   wicket core tree)
>>>> >   - In it, put the inspector page(s), inspector bug and related
>>>> utilties as
>>>> >   well as the new @StatelessComponent
>>>> >   - Add to it a common place that all such dev utilities get their
>>>> on/off
>>>> >   switch (which will read from application's debug settings, perhaps)
>>>> >   - Enable it in dev by default, off in prod by default, but have a way
>>>> >   that it can be enabled in production (by setting the value in debug
>>>> >   settings)
>>>> >   - As Jon suggested - the pages will throw an exception if they are
>>>> >   accessed and are disabled at the time.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Thoughts?  I'd like to get this done in the 1.4 release so that it's
>>>> > available to all those who pick up Wicket in the next year while we're
>>>> > working on 1.5.
>>>> >
>>>> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-670
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Jeremy Thomerson
>>>> > http://www.wickettraining.com
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

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