Hi Martin,

Thanks very much for this answer. Well then, in my own point of view,
that's fine like you described...

Best regards,
Sebastien.



On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Martin Grigorov <mgrigo...@apache.org>wrote:

> Hey,
>
> Let's talk with numbers, well dates.
>
> 1.5.0 is announced at Sep 7 2011.
> 6.0.0 is announced at Sep 5 2012.
>
> In my first mail in this thread I said "feature complete, so let's release
> a milestone/rc".
> Summer holidays come so I think the final release won't be in the next
> month or two.
> It took 8 months for 1.5 (RC1 - Jan 22 2011) and 5 months for 6.0 (beta1 -
> Mar 26 2012) to be in RC stage.
>
> There is a difference than 1.5/6.0 - in 7.0 there are no big refactorings
> which will make the migration and testing hard for apps coming from 6.x.
> Additionally I can say that the migration
> guide<
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WICKET/Migration+to+Wicket+7.0
> >
> has
> never been so complete.
>
> So a major release has 2 years life. Actually even more because 1.5.x will
> be supported until 7.0.3/4 before be moved to security maintenance mode. At
> least this has been the case with the previous releases.
> Additionally I think it is OK to be supported even more if a core developer
> volunteers to do this, because he has a client or another reason. If Sven
> (or anyone else who can make a release) wants to add a fix to 1.3.x branch
> and release it then all is fine.
>
> In summary - no, there are no new big features in Wicket 7. There are minor
> API improvements/breaks here and there, and requirements for Java 7 and
> Servlet 3.0. But I think we should keep our pace and release a new major
> release once per year. Postponing 7.0 will only increase the changes in the
> APIs and make the migration more painful for our users.
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Sebastien <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I am in the same case where my customer also did not yet migrate to
> wicket
> > 6... So, in my user point of view, I agree with Sven, I think that one
> > major release by year is enough...
> > Sure, It does not prevent to start working on the next feature(s) and
> > release some betas once one of these is implemented...
> >
> > My 2cts,
> > Sebastien.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Sven Meier <s...@meiers.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > if we continue to release a major version every 9 months, we will
> either
> > > have to support more branches or drop support for an old version every
> 9
> > > months.
> > > For my type of customers this scenario sounds scary. Some of them just
> > > managed to migrate to Wicket 6 :(.
> > >
> > > So do we really want to publish a new release so soon? Is there
> something
> > > important (already) in Wicket 7 that people are waiting for?
> > >
> > > Best regards
> > > Sven
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 06/26/2013 01:20 PM, Martin Grigorov wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi all,
> > >>
> > >> I'd like to discuss where we are with Wicket 7 and what to do next.
> > >>
> > >> At the moment there are just
> > >> 3<https://issues.apache.org/**jira/issues/?jql=project%20%**
> > >> 3D%20WICKET%20AND%**20fixVersion%20%3D%20%227.0.0%**
> > >> 22%20AND%20status%20in%20(**Open%2C%20%22In%20Progress%22%**
> > >> 2C%20Reopened)%20ORDER%20BY%**20created%20DESC%2C%20summary%**20ASC<
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20WICKET%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%20%227.0.0%22%20AND%20status%20in%20(Open%2C%20%22In%20Progress%22%2C%20Reopened)%20ORDER%20BY%20created%20DESC%2C%20summary%20ASC
> > >
> > >> >
> > >> tickets
> > >> with "Fix Version" 7.0.0.
> > >>
> > >> One <https://issues.apache.org/**jira/browse/WICKET-5172<
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-5172>>
> > >> of them is about
> > >> adding a link for the javadoc at http://wicket.apache.org. Trivial.
> > >>
> > >> Another <https://issues.apache.org/**jira/browse/WICKET-4951<
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-4951>>
> > >> is about
> > >> CDI-1.1. John Sarman is helping here. Thanks!
> > >>
> > >> And the last <https://issues.apache.org/**jira/browse/WICKET-5184<
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-5184>>
> > >> one is
> > >> about the signature of AbstractTree/Model.ofSet(). I don't see a good
> > >> solution here, but I have provided a workaround.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> In the roadmap page there is also:
> > >>
> > >> Refactor checkgroup/radiogroup to make them non
> > >> components<https://cwiki.**apache.org/confluence/display/**
> > >> WICKET/Wicket+7.0+Roadmap#**Wicket7.0Roadmap-**Refactorcheckgroup%**
> > >> 2Fradiogrouptomakethemnoncompo**nents<
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WICKET/Wicket+7.0+Roadmap#Wicket7.0Roadmap-Refactorcheckgroup%2Fradiogrouptomakethemnoncomponents
> > >
> > >> .>
> > >> -
> > >> @Igor: do you want to work yourself on this ? Otherwise please give
> more
> > >> details how you imagine the new way.
> > >>
> > >> Make CSS class strings used in the framework
> > >> configurable<https://cwiki.**apache.org/confluence/display/**
> > >> WICKET/Wicket+7.0+Roadmap#**Wicket7.0Roadmap-**
> > >> Makecssclassstringsusedinthefr**ameworkconfigurable<
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WICKET/Wicket+7.0+Roadmap#Wicket7.0Roadmap-Makecssclassstringsusedintheframeworkconfigurable
> > >
> > >> >
> > >> -
> > >> this one is clear. If there are no objections then I'll pick it soon
> > >> (unless someone else does it before me).
> > >>
> > >> I'm going to investigate few tickets about bookmarkable mappers
> > >> (MountMapper, MountedMapper, PackageMapper and ResourceMapper) and
> their
> > >> handling of named parameters in the path/segments.
> > >>
> > >> Unless someone has more ideas what can be improved for Wicket 7 I
> think
> > we
> > >> are pretty close to be "feature complete" and we can release a
> milestone
> > >> or
> > >> release candidate.
> > >>
> > >> I'd like to thank Cedric Gatay, Michael Mossman, Andrea Del Bene and
> > John
> > >> Sarman for their help so far!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
>

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