binding on document is fine, you just have to make sure your code is fast
in case you are binding to things like mousemove.

-igor


On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 1:31 AM, Martin Grigorov <mgrigo...@apache.org>wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Igor Vaynberg <igor.vaynb...@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 1:50 AM, Martin Grigorov <mgrigo...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 8:59 AM, Igor Vaynberg <
> igor.vaynb...@gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 7:22 AM, Martin Grigorov <
> mgrigo...@apache.org>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Sven Meier <s...@meiers.net>
> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Hi,
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> >The idea with plain JS solution I cannot visualize in my head yet.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> EventDelegatingBehavior is just a collector of JavaScript snippets.
> > The
> > >> >> actual magic runs in the browser: a custom bubbling of events and
> > >> >> delegation to the actual behavior.
> > >> >> It should be possible to do this plain with JavaScript:
> > >> >>
> > >> >>   public class DelegatingAjax implements IAjax {
> > >> >>
> > >> >>     public ajax(IHeaderResponse response, Component component,
> > >> >> AjaxRequestAttributes attributes) {
> > >> >>       CharSequence ajaxAttributes =
> renderAjaxAttributes(**component,
> > >> >> attributes);
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >>
> >
> response.render(**OnDomReadyHeaderItem.**forScript("Wicket.Event.***delegate*("
> > >> >> + ajaxAttributes + ");");
> > >> >>     }
> > >> >>   }
> > >> >>
> > >> >> This would be page-global though.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > This is an important detail!
> > >> > I'll consult with my frontend colleagues but so far I don't see
> > problems.
> > >> >
> > >> > For every delegated component we can set special CSS class, e.g.
> > >> > 'wicket-delegated'.
> > >> > The binding will be: $(document).on('click', '.wicket-delegated',
> > >> > function(event) {....})
> > >> > i.e. we will take advantage of jQuery delegation/live support.
> > >> > This way even newly added items in the repeaters will be
> automatically
> > >> > supported.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> this is partially on the right track, but there are still some
> > >> optimization that can be made.
> > >>
> > >> first, the ajax attributes need to be moved into a data attribute that
> > >> is written out on the tag. the final output of attaching a onclick
> > >> ajax behavior to a tag should end up looking like this:
> > >>
> > >> <a wicket:id="ajaxlink"
> > >> data-w-click="u/?0.foo:bar.ILinkListener/c/default/pd/true"/>
> > >>
> > >> (we will need to figure out how to encode ajax attributes into a
> string)
> > >>
> > >
> > > example:
> > > <a id="c23" data-w-attrs='{"u":"someUrl","m":"post"}' ...>
> > >
> > > $('#c23').data("w-attrs") === {u: "someUrl", m: "post"}
> > >
> > > This works for valid JSON, but it doesn't for the enhancement we use -
> > the
> > > functions for the call listeners.
> >
> > i did say we need to figure out a way to encode it right above the
> example
> > :)
> >
> > >> then you can have the one global listener:
> > >>
> > >> $(document).on("click", function(e) {
> > >>
> > >
> > > The problem here is that using 'document' will make the things actually
> > > slower.
> > > We need to find a simple way to be able to bind on a parent component.
> > > In Sven's example - a table with many cells the most appropriate
> element
> > is
> > > the <table> itself.
> >
> > umm, why does it make things slower exactly? this has virtually no
> > overhead, events bubble up anyways...so where does the slowness come
> > from?
> >
>
> All the talks about the deprecation of jQuery#live() say that binding on
> the document is not a good idea (performance wise).
>
> If it is not possible to bind on a context element then I see no much
> benefit.
>
>
> >
> > -igor
> >
> > >
> > > In event-delegating-behavior branch I need to traverse the parent
> > > components and their behaviors to be able to find the appropriate
> parent.
> > > So we win some performance in JS execution but lose some in Java :-/
> > >
> > >    var element=$(this), attrs=element.attr("data-w-click");
> > >>    if (attrs&&!e.handledByWicket)
> > >>        Wicket.Ajax.call(attrs);
> > >>        e.handledByWicket=true; // if there are more handlers above, do
> > >> not double process the event - read below
> > >>    }
> > >> }
> > >>
> > >> the advantage here is that we only have one javascript listener that
> > >> needs to be registered.
> > >>
> > >> however, there are a few disadvantages:
> > >> * event propagation options wont work anymore, because the event has
> > >> to propagate all the way to the document in order to trigger.
> > >> * some libraries block events. for example if there is a panel with an
> > >> ajax link inside a third party modal window. the modal window lib may
> > >> prevent any clicks from propagating out of itself, which means the
> > >> handler on the document will never see them.
> > >>
> > >> we can sort of solve this by having a behavior that would write out
> > >> the listener above, but attached to the component not the document.
> > >>
> > >> that way, if we look at my example with the panel inside the modal,
> > >> the user can add this behavior to the panel that will be in the modal
> > >> and still be able to capture the event.
> > >>
> > >> this does, however, make troubleshooting more difficult. why didnt my
> > >> ajax event trigger? you will have to be a lot more aware about what
> > >> javascript you have in the dom.
> > >
> > >
> > >> i think a short term goal might be to move the ajax attributes into a
> > >> dom attribute and change our ajax code to simply say
> > >> Wicket.Ajax.bind("click", "component234");
> > >>
> > >
> > > see above (valid JSON)
> > >
> > > we can enrich the DOM:
> > > <a ... onsuccess="someScript">
> > > but I think this is a step back to Wicket 1.5 days (ajax decorators on
> > > strings, etc.)
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> this will register the listener like above on the element directly. so
> > >> no delegation yet but cleaner javascript/html. also the browser doesnt
> > >> have to parse as much javascript, so it will be a bit speedier.
> > >>
> > >> potentially we can collect ids to further optimize js size:
> > >> Wicket.Ajax.bind({click, ["c34", "c32"], blur: ["c22","c98"]);
> > >>
> > >> -igor
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Sven
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On 07/11/2013 03:40 PM, Martin Grigorov wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Nick Pratt <nbpr...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>  I think this is great - we have some tables now with a ton of JS
> > >> events
> > >> >>>> on
> > >> >>>> the child elements.  Just to clarify, will this make the rendered
> > page
> > >> >>>> smaller since there will only be a single JS handler for the
> event
> > for
> > >> >>>> the
> > >> >>>> container rather than N JS handlers?
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>  At the moment all attributes for an inner element are preserved.
> > >> >>> 'e' (the event name), 'c' (the component markup id), pd (prevent
> > >> default),
> > >> >>> sp (stop propagation) can be removed because they are not really
> > used.
> > >> >>> But every inner element can have its own call listeners, form
> > >> submitters
> > >> >>> can also have custom settings ('f', 'sc', 'mp', 'm'), so I think
> > they
> > >> have
> > >> >>> to be preserved.
> > >> >>> If you look in #updateAjaxAttributes() for your ajax behaviors in
> > your
> > >> >>> table cells you will probably notice that they have their own
> > >> attributes.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>  Making it switchable (I think how Sven suggested) would be an
> > >> >>>> improvement -
> > >> >>>> we could leave it off by default, but provide a simple switch on
> a
> > >> >>>> per-container (or per-app) basis that would allow the dev to
> > choose.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>  Yes, it looks as an improvement.
> > >> >>> Moving the current code to such implementation is easy.
> > >> >>> The idea with plain JS solution I cannot visualize in my head yet.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>  Regards
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Nick
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 4:59 AM, Martin Grigorov <
> > >> mgrigo...@apache.org
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>> wrote:
> > >> >>>>> Hi,
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> At https://github.com/apache/**wicket/compare/event-**
> > >> >>>>> delegating-behavioryou<
> > >> https://github.com/apache/wicket/compare/event-delegating-behavioryou
> >
> > >> >>>>> may see the diff between master and event-delegating-behavior
> > >> branches.
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> The latter provides a new AjaxEventBehavior (AEB) -
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>> EventDelegatingBehavior
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>> (EDB), that suppresses the JS event binding for all
> > >> AjaxEventBehaviors
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>> for
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>> a given event type (click, submit, change, ...) in the children
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>> components
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>> of the host component of EDB.
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> How EDB works:
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> - until now AjaxEventBehavior#renderHead() renders ondomready
> > header
> > >> >>>>> item
> > >> >>>>> with JS snippet like:
> > >> >>>>> Wicket.Ajax.ajax(**attributesObject);
> > >> >>>>> In the new branch there is a check if some parent has EDB for
> the
> > >> event
> > >> >>>>> type of this AEB, and if there is such then the AEB "donates"
> its
> > >> >>>>> attributes to the EDB.
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> - EventDelegatingBehavior#**getCallbackScript() renders :
> > >> >>>>> Wicket.Event.delegate('**edbComponentMarkupId', 'eventType',
> > >> >>>>> edbAttributes,
> > >> >>>>> childrenAttrsMap);
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> - when a delegated component fires its event (e.g. the user
> clicks
> > >> on an
> > >> >>>>> AjaxLink) the event is handled by EDB's event handler. It
> extracts
> > >> the
> > >> >>>>> markupId of the inner HTML element and fires Wicket.Ajax.Call
> with
> > >> the
> > >> >>>>> specific attributes for the extracted inner element.
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> Pros:
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> - simple to use - just add EDB to a container component around
> > your
> > >> Ajax
> > >> >>>>> heavy component (e.g. repeater with many Ajax behaviors). See
> the
> > >> demo
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>> app
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>> at https://issues.apache.org/**jira/browse/WICKET-5267<
> > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-5267>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> -  faster JS execution
> > >> >>>>> -- faster execution of the domready handler because there is
> just
> > one
> > >> >>>>> binding instead of N
> > >> >>>>> -- faster reaction because the browser finds the event handler
> > much
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>> faster.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>> I wasn't able to prove this with numbers because there is no way
> > to
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>> detect
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>> the 'start time', i.e. when the user makes the action. With JS
> the
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>> earliest
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>> point is when the browser has already looked up the event
> handler.
> > >> >>>>> Chrome Dev tools (timeline, profiling, pagespeed) don't help
> too.
> > So
> > >> my
> > >> >>>>> reference that it is faster are the articles in the web and a
> use
> > >> case
> > >> >>>>> in
> > >> >>>>> our application.
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> Cons:
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> - AEB#renderHead() needs to check whether there is EDB up in the
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>> hierarchy
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>> to be able to decide what to do.
> > >> >>>>> This is ugly, I agree. But I see no other solution that will
> > preserve
> > >> >>>>> the
> > >> >>>>> transparent usage of something like EDB and will not require a
> > major
> > >> >>>>> rewrite of user applications to be able to use event delegation.
> > >> >>>>> -- there are some optimizations to lower the impact of the new
> > >> checks:
> > >> >>>>> --- a new setting (IAjaxSettings#**useEventDelegation) - a
> global
> > >> >>>>> property
> > >> >>>>> that prevents visiting the parent components and their behaviors
> > for
> > >> all
> > >> >>>>> apps which do not use EDB
> > >> >>>>> --- when EDB is bound it registers a metadata for its event type
> > in
> > >> the
> > >> >>>>> page instance. This prevents visiting all behaviors of all
> parent
> > >> >>>>> components
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> I have no more ideas how to further optimize it.
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> Any feedback is welcome! Even if you have a completely different
> > idea
> > >> >>>>> how
> > >> >>>>> to implement this functionality.
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> Thanks for reading!
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>
> > >>
> >
>

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