All IOC listeners (Spring, Guice, CDI) can do their job by using only the
class.
But I still find the instance more useful :-)

Martin Grigorov
Wicket Training and Consulting


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Carl-Eric Menzel <cmen...@wicketbuch.de>wrote:

> Duh. I knew I missed an obvious one! You are of course right.
>
> So we can't get rid of that one easily. That said, I'm still wary of
> spreading unfinished objects even further around the API.
>
> Carl-Eric
>
> On Fri, 20 Dec 2013 10:12:32 +0100
> Sven Meier <s...@meiers.net> wrote:
>
> > SpringComponentInjector?
> >
> > Sven
> >
> > On 12/20/2013 10:09 AM, Carl-Eric Menzel wrote:
> > > I agree that something should be cleaned up. But like I said in the
> > > comment to that Jira ticket, I think it should in fact move more
> > > toward passing the class rather than the uninitialized instance. I
> > > like my objects to be predictable, and I like it even more when I
> > > don't have to think about any traps, even if they are
> > > well-documented.
> > >
> > > I think (I also wrote that in the comment) that perhaps
> > > IComponentInstantiationListener should be deprecated and eventually
> > > removed, since IComponentInitializationListener should be able to
> > > cover all the same use cases without having the unfinished
> > > constructor problem.
> > >
> > > Is there a use case that would not be handled by the initialization
> > > listener?
> > >
> > > Carl-Eric
> > >
> > > On Fri, 20 Dec 2013 10:53:40 +0200
> > > Martin Grigorov <mgrigo...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> The reporter of https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-5454
> > >> asked to pass the Component instance
> > >> to  IAuthorizationStrategy#isInstantiationAuthorized() instead of
> > >> just its class.
> > >> I have no idea why the API has been designed this way but Carl-Eric
> > >> gave a good explanation - the component is not yet fully
> > >> constructed.
> > >>
> > >> The thing that bothers me is why it is OK to use the instance in my
> > >> custom IComponentInstantiationListener and it is not OK to do the
> > >> same in IAuthorizationStrategy#isInstantiationAuthorized() ?
> > >> If there is a javadoc explaining the possible problem (as for
> > >> IComponentInstantiationListener#onInstantiation()) then it is OK.
> > >>
> > >> Even more - at
> > >>
> https://github.com/apache/wicket/blob/master/wicket-core/src/main/java/org/apache/wicket/Application.java#L276you
> > >> can see that right ater rejecting the *Class* we pass the
> > >> *instance* to
> > >> the UnauthorizedComponentInstantiationListener!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Martin Grigorov
> > >> Wicket Training and Consulting
> >
>
>

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