It's not a bad idea :). I think Martijn is the one who has fully visibility on such items.
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 10:44 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: > Maybe we can list all remaining items here? > This might speed up the process :) > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 4:33 PM, Andrea Del Bene <an.delb...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > We should also to release 7.10.0 as well. Like Martijn said I think the > > last blocking issues for Wicket 8 are not technical: reworking quickstart > > style, prepare a press release, etc... > > > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 9:10 AM, Rob Audenaerde < > rob.audenae...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> +1, don't let perfect be the enemy of good.. Wicket 8 has so many nice > >> things, want to start using them :) > >> > >> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 9:04 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com > > > >> wrote: > >> > >> > Hello All, > >> > > >> > M8 was released ~2.5 months ago > >> > I believe we should release 8.0.0 (since there are no blockers) or > >> > release M9 ..... > >> > > >> > On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 5:08 PM, Sven Meier <s...@meiers.net> wrote: > >> > >> I am confused. > >> > > > >> > > We already found what we want, thank you. > >> > > > >> > > Sven > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Am 04.01.2018 um 10:57 schrieb Martin Grigorov: > >> > >> > >> > >> Hi Korbinian, Sven, > >> > >> > >> > >> I am confused. > >> > >> Both of you say that jQuery is not a problem and few sentences > later > >> say > >> > >> that jQuery prevents the usage of defer/async... > >> > >> > >> > >> I am sure you will find your ways to do what you want! > >> > >> > >> > >> Martin > >> > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 11:06 AM, Korbinian Bachl < > >> > >> korbinian.ba...@whiskyworld.de> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>> Hi Martin, > >> > >>> > >> > >>> i think we dont see jQuery as problem, but mere the current > >> integration > >> > >>> of > >> > >>> all wicket JS and ajax and the depending on it. Its more an > adaption > >> to > >> > >>> current standards, where old IEs and other quirks in browsers > aren't > >> > >>> needed > >> > >>> anymore - so to say. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Currently wicket has a real big problem with first page impression > >> and > >> > >>> high speed rendering on mobile devices as all JS resources are > >> limited > >> > by > >> > >>> wicket in not beeing able to get deffered or even async'd. Ideally > >> the > >> > >>> wicket JS integration not only should accept defer but be built > >> around > >> > >>> full > >> > >>> async into the JS part - that however would not be possible with > >> jQuery > >> > >>> as > >> > >>> this one only allows defer at max as the ordering matters here... > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Best, > >> > >>> > >> > >>> KB > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> ----- Ursprüngliche Mail ----- > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> Von: "Martin Grigorov" <mgrigo...@apache.org> > >> > >>>> An: dev@wicket.apache.org > >> > >>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 2. Januar 2018 12:43:41 > >> > >>>> Betreff: Re: 8.0.0 blockers > >> > >>>> Hi, > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> 1) one can always replace the version with > JavaScriptLibrarySettings > >> > >>>> 2.x is used as default because most jQuery plugins are not > migrated > >> to > >> > >>> > >> > >>> 3.x, > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> JS folks moved to more modern JS solutions (React, Angular, Vue, > >> ...) > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> 2) wicket-ajax-*jquery*.js is named this way because it depends > on > >> > >>> > >> > >>> jQuery! > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> One can always implement the Wicket.xyz JS APIs on top of vanilla > >> JS, > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Dojo > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> 2.x, Angular 5.x, ... And use it via > >> > >>>> JavaScriptLibrarySettings#setWicketAjaxReference() > >> > >>>> Such alternative implementation can be introduced at any version > of > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Wicket. > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> But what exactly is the problem with jQuery (in Wicket) ? > >> > >>>> Why its event listeners do not work for this use case ? > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> Martin Grigorov > >> > >>>> Wicket Training and Consulting > >> > >>>> https://twitter.com/mtgrigorov > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 12:54 PM, Sven Meier <s...@meiers.net> > >> wrote: > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>>> Please take a look at the pull request: > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> https://github.com/apache/wicket/pull/253 > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> As you can see, there are many places that have to work > together - > >> do > >> > >>> > >> > >>> you > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> see a good way to make that configurable? > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> I'd prefer to support a single solution only: > >> > >>>>> addEventListener() instead of jQuery "domready"/"load" and > maybe a > >> > >>> > >> > >>> central > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> hook allowing to defer all JavaScript resources (perhaps there's > >> > >>>>> already > >> > >>>>> one I'm not aware of). > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> This way users can defer JavaScript if they want to, but we > don't > >> > force > >> > >>> > >> > >>> it > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> on everyone (e.g. if they still need JavaScriptHeaderItems). > >> > >>>>> IMHO moving the framework away from jQuery is the right > direction > >> > >>>>> anyway > >> > >>>>> (see http://youmightnotneedjquery.com/), but perhaps Wicket 8 > (or > >> > >>> > >> > >>> shortly > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> before the 8.0.0 release) is not the right moment for it. > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> Regards > >> > >>>>> Sven > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> Am 02.01.2018 um 11:34 schrieb Martin Makundi: > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>>> If configuration option is final solution then yes, otherwise > it > >> > opens > >> > >>> > >> > >>> a > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> new can of worms for backwards (and on-site branching) > >> > compatibility. > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> ** > >> > >>>>>> Martin > >> > >>>>>> +0.02 > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> 2018-01-02 12:29 GMT+02:00 Korbinian Bachl > >> > >>> > >> > >>> <korbinian.bachl@whiskyworld.d > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> e>: > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> May I ask why not a simple Config option? When disabled current > >> > >>> > >> > >>> behaviour > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> (default) but when turned on new behaviour? That way it wont > >> break > >> > >>>>>>> anything > >> > >>>>>>> and may be added to wicket any time? > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> I just ask because this "not in that version" etc. usually is > the > >> > >>> > >> > >>> reason > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> why some Frameworks seems less active/ agile as others. Maybe > I > >> > miss > >> > >>> > >> > >>> the > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> big picture but I really would hate it if I have to wait for a > >> new > >> > >>> > >> > >>> major > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> version of wicket each time we need to keep up with the > >> > developement > >> > >>> > >> > >>> of > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> the > >> > >>>>>>> browsers... long time ago there was a discussion what version > of > >> > >>> > >> > >>> jQuery > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> should be in wicket and it went on 2, a sane idea at that > time, > >> but > >> > >>> > >> > >>> now > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> as > >> > >>>>>>> its 2018 I - for example - would instead now only ship JQuery > 3.x > >> > >>> > >> > >>> default > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> for wicket as the time has changed. > >> > >>>>>>> I wonder how wicket will keep up with that if the cycle is so > >> long > >> > >>> > >> > >>> each > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> time... > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> Best > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> KB > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> PS: I know that you can override the jQuery version as you > like, > >> it > >> > >>>>>>> is > >> > >>>>>>> just an example how the "best idea/ way to do it" changes over > >> time > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> ----- Ursprüngliche Mail ----- > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> Von: "Sven Meier" <s...@meiers.net> > >> > >>>>>>>> An: dev@wicket.apache.org > >> > >>>>>>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 2. Januar 2018 10:57:39 > >> > >>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: 8.0.0 blockers > >> > >>>>>>>> Hi Maxim, > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> I don't think WICKET-6498 will be part of Wicket 8: > >> > >>>>>>>> There are still conceptual open questions (who decides what > >> > >>> > >> > >>> resources to > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> defer) > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> and implementation issues, i.e. does the proposed solution > with > >> > >>>>>>>> addEventListener work in all browsers. > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> Thanks for testing this. > >> > >>>>>>>> Sven > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> Gesendet mit Blue > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> Am 2. Jan. 2018, 09:13, um 09:13, Maxim Solodovnik < > >> > >>>>>>>> solomax...@gmail.com > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> schrieb: > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>> I'll try to test WICKET-6498 today/tomorrow > >> > >>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Martijn Dashorst < > >> > >>>>>>>>> martijn.dasho...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>> I’m working on restyling the QuickStart to look like the new > >> > >>>>>>>>> examples. Not > >> > >>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> a blocker but would be awesome to include. Will work on it > 2nd > >> > Jan > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Martijn > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Op vr 29 dec. 2017 om 20:28 schreef Korbinian Bachl < > >> > >>>>>>>>>> korbinian.ba...@whiskyworld.de> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> May I also mention WICKET-6498? > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-6498 > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> ----- Ursprüngliche Mail ----- > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Von: "Sven Meier" <s...@meiers.net> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> An: dev@wicket.apache.org > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Freitag, 29. Dezember 2017 16:22:47 > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: 8.0.0 blockers > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Not strictly necessary, but I would like to merge > >> WICKET-6503: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-6503 > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Have fun > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Sven > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Am 29.12.2017 um 06:02 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello All, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it time for release? > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> There are long holidays upcoming here, so I can send > more > >> > time > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> on > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Wicket > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> :))) > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 9:36 PM, Andrea Del Bene < > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> an.delb...@gmail.com> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 1:07 PM, Martijn Dashorst < > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> martijn.dasho...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> No technical blockers AFAIK, however, we really should > do > >> > the > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> marketing > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> right: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - front page of website should feature 8 prominently > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - work with Sally from PR for a press release to let > the > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> world > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> know > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> we > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> are > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not Dead Yet™ > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - have a really great announcement to give to the > world > >> > about > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> all > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> the > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> benefits of Wicket 8 > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What are the key features that necessitate upgrading > to > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wicket > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8? > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Not blocking but really important: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - have a story to answer "Why not just use XXX.js?" > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - have a story to answer "Isn't Java Server Side > >> frameworks > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> dead?" > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> I (partially) covered these two issues in my presentation. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe it > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> can be > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> helpful for further considerations: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://events.linuxfoundation. > >> > org/sites/events/files/slides/ > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wicket_The_story_so_far_and_beyond.pdf > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - have a story to answer "Isn't Java dead" > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Java will never die :-) > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have a call list for when a reporter wants to have > contact > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> about > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Wicket 8 > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and its future (esp. related to questions above) > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Other things to consider: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - prepare some articles to publish to dzone, voxxed, > >> etc.? > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm preparing an article for dzone. You can find it > here: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/l9ec2plxyhe4aa2/article8.txt > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any feedback is welcome! > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Martijn > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 3:32 AM, Maxim Solodovnik < > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax...@gmail.com> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello All, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do we have any blockers for 8.0.0? > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Become a Wicket expert, learn from the best: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://wicketinaction.com > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> -- > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Become a Wicket expert, learn from the best: > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>> http://wicketinaction.com > >> > >>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>> -- > >> > >>>>>>>>> WBR > >> > >>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax > >> > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > WBR > >> > Maxim aka solomax > >> > > >> > > > > -- > WBR > Maxim aka solomax >
