If the product is Java based shouldn't it be the user's task to set these things? When inside the JVM/Java he/she should not worry about any config etc... (this is where Java's interoperability stays). But to get there they need to setup the Java. Again the instructions need to be clear & precise (and also simple enough to a computer user).
Of course if there's a standard way to find the JAVA_HOME (by backtracking PATH etc...) no problem with that. But that should be some windows specific stuff? Just my humble opinion :) On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Tharindu Mathew <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm a .net guy who tries to start the wso2 server... and I'm told to set > this JAVA_HOME... My first impression... this will not be as easy as the > .net stuff I'm used to... Next, I'll go google this up and take about > another half an hour to get this done. > > I'm working with a bunch of .net folks here and no one is complaining... > but they are struggling to get the server to started... > > Something we need to fix? Maybe not, but it sure got me thinking... > > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Thilina Buddhika <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Most of the tools/servers like Maven, Ant, Tomcat, Apache DS requires >> users to set JAVA_HOME in advance which is kind of an standard approach. >> This is the case for most of the other proprietary app servers, etc. >> >> Some other tools, ask users to point to the JRE installation directory >> during their installation or it picks up the JRE installation and ask users >> to verify it. >> >> [ There can be other tools who will detect Java installation by checking >> the PATH variable or some other means. ] >> >> Because we do not provide any sophisticated UI based installer, our >> current approach should be fine IMO, given that we have clearly documented >> what needs to be done. >> >> Thanks, >> Thilina >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Vijitha Kumara <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> > Usually in Windows when you install Java, the java binary becomes >>> readily accessible from the command prompt. >>> >>> Installer adds an entry to ../bin to the PATH, AFAIR... But Tomcat etc.. >>> need JAVA_HOME to be available, not sure this has changed recently with the >>> windows installers though. >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Hiranya Jayathilaka >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> We use JAVA_HOME to locate the java binary in a reliable manner >>>> (JAVA_HOME/bin). I guess in Windows, there are other ways to locate it. >>>> Usually in Windows when you install Java, the java binary becomes readily >>>> accessible from the command prompt. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Hiranya >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Vijitha Kumara <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> > Other programs seem to detect where it is...? >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps looking at a standard location "C:/Program Files/Java..." ? >>>>> But cannot guarantee I guess. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Thilina Buddhika >>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> If the JAVA_HOME environment variable is set in Windows(similar to >>>>>> Linux), then nothing additional is required to be done. >>>>>> >>>>>> It is pretty much similar to Linux. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Thilina >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Tharindu Mathew <[email protected] >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Other programs seem to detect where it is... can we do the same? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's seems unnatural for a windows user to do this.... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tharindu >>>>>>> >>>>>>> blog: http://mackiemathew.com/ >>>>>>> M: +94777759908 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Dev mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Thilina Buddhika >>>>>> Associate Technical Lead >>>>>> WSO2 Inc. ; http://wso2.com >>>>>> lean . enterprise . middleware >>>>>> >>>>>> phone : +94 77 44 88 727 >>>>>> blog : http://blog.thilinamb.com >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Dev mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Vijitha Kumara >>>>> Senior Software Engineer; WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com/ >>>>> email: [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> Lean . Enterprise . Middleware >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Dev mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Hiranya Jayathilaka >>>> Associate Technical Lead; >>>> WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.org >>>> E-mail: [email protected]; Mobile: +94 77 633 3491 >>>> Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Vijitha Kumara >>> Senior Software Engineer; WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com/ >>> email: [email protected] >>> >>> Lean . Enterprise . Middleware >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Dev mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Thilina Buddhika >> Associate Technical Lead >> WSO2 Inc. ; http://wso2.com >> lean . enterprise . middleware >> >> phone : +94 77 44 88 727 >> blog : http://blog.thilinamb.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Dev mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev >> >> > > > -- > Regards, > > Tharindu > > blog: http://mackiemathew.com/ > M: +94777759908 > > -- Vijitha Kumara Senior Software Engineer; WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com/ email: [email protected] Lean . Enterprise . Middleware
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