In general I think having two ways of configuration is a mistake. Having that kind of a model confuses users and make the life harder for developers as well. Also it means we haven't figured out the correct places for correct configuration as well. If there are two ways of configurations they should be synched. For example if both carbon.xml and UI are allowed, a change done in UI should be reflected in carbon.xml and vise versa.
Thanks, Supun.. On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 1:49 AM, Nuwan Dias <[email protected]> wrote: > Ok then, we'll have both options. If configurations are specified in > carbon.xml, run the UI in read-only mode and display an Information > Message. If not, allow users to configure through the UI. > > Thanks, > NuwanD. > > > On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Afkham Azeez <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Hiranya Jayathilaka >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Afkham Azeez <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Hiranya Jayathilaka <[email protected] >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Miyuru Wanninayaka >>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> One alternative is support both registry and carbon.xml configuration >>>>>> and give priority to carbon.xml. So if someone configured deployment >>>>>> synchronizer by editing carbon.xml, UI will just run on read-only mode. >>>>>> UI >>>>>> should only allow configuring if dep-sync is not configured in >>>>>> carbon.xml. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> That is how it's presently implemented. So just leave the code as it >>>>> is without removing anything, and it'll work just fine. >>>>> >>>> >>>> See my previous mail. I don't believe this is useful in the Carbon >>>> console since configuring this is not part of the Carbon admin's role. >>>> >>> >>> That's not true. We already have users who extensively use this UI. It's >>> great in dev and staging environments where developers can access the >>> system over the web and try out stuff. >>> >> >> OK. Let's leave it at it then. The UI looks great, and information like >> last checked out time & commit now are useful. However, I don't see the >> configuration part of this being used in SLive like production setups. See >> Sanjaya's response. >> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Hiranya >>> >>> >>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Hiranya >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Sanjaya Ratnaweera < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Afkham Azeez <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What do you mean this will make the carbon.xml based synchronizer >>>>>>>> obsolete? You mean we won't be able to configure the server using the >>>>>>>> carbon.xml file and will be forced to use the UI to do that? If so, >>>>>>>> -1. It >>>>>>>> will be a huge usability issue for sysadmins. Talk to Sanjaya & see >>>>>>>> how we >>>>>>>> do things to manage Carbon servers in production. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, we never touch UI when managing deployments. For example in >>>>>>> Stratoslive we change configuration files and keep them in a separate >>>>>>> location. At the deployment time we unzip a fresh pack and sync changed >>>>>>> configurations with that. If we store those configurations in local >>>>>>> registry we may have to login to each and every instance and change. >>>>>>> This >>>>>>> is not a one time change, because sometimes we delete the pack and >>>>>>> unzip a >>>>>>> fresh one when there are file corruptions, etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Anyway keeping configurations in a XML file is much easier for >>>>>>> production deployment. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ~sanjaya >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Nuwan Dias <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Hiranya, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks for the suggestions, will increase the SVN URL field >>>>>>>>> length. Yes, input validations have been done. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> NuwanD. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Hiranya Jayathilaka < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Looks pretty good. Please increase the length of the SVN URL >>>>>>>>>> input field. URL fields are usually long. I hope proper input >>>>>>>>>> validations >>>>>>>>>> are all in place. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>> Hiranya >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Nuwan Dias <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I have developed a UI for the SVN based deployment synchronizer >>>>>>>>>>> as per the task in https://wso2.org/jira/browse/ESBJAVA-893. >>>>>>>>>>> This will make is possible to provide svn parameters for the svn >>>>>>>>>>> based >>>>>>>>>>> deployment synchronizer through the UI. It will however make the >>>>>>>>>>> existing >>>>>>>>>>> server configuration based (carbon.xml) deployment synchronizer >>>>>>>>>>> obsolete >>>>>>>>>>> and will be using the local registry to store and retrieve svn >>>>>>>>>>> parameters. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> A screenshot of the deployment synchronizer page is attached >>>>>>>>>>> herewith. Suggestions welcome. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Nuwan Dias >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Software Engineer - WSO2, Inc. >>>>>>>>>>> Integration Technologies Team >>>>>>>>>>> email : [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> Phone : +94 777 775 729 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Nuwan Dias >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Software Engineer - WSO2, Inc. >>>>>>>>>>> Integration Technologies Team >>>>>>>>>>> email : [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> Phone : +94 777 775 729 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> Dev mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Hiranya Jayathilaka >>>>>>>>>> Associate Technical Lead; >>>>>>>>>> WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.org >>>>>>>>>> E-mail: [email protected]; Mobile: +94 77 633 3491 >>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Nuwan Dias >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Software Engineer - WSO2, Inc. >>>>>>>>> Integration Technologies Team >>>>>>>>> email : [email protected] >>>>>>>>> Phone : +94 777 775 729 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Dev mailing list >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> *Afkham Azeez* >>>>>>>> Director of Architecture; WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com >>>>>>>> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/ >>>>>>>> * <http://www.apache.org/>** >>>>>>>> email: **[email protected]* <[email protected]>* cell: +94 77 3320919 >>>>>>>> blog: **http://blog.afkham.org* <http://blog.afkham.org>* >>>>>>>> twitter: >>>>>>>> **http://twitter.com/afkham_azeez*<http://twitter.com/afkham_azeez> >>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>> linked-in: **http://lk.linkedin.com/in/afkhamazeez* >>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>> *Lean . 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Middleware* >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Dev mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev >> >> > > > -- > Nuwan Dias > > Software Engineer - WSO2, Inc. > Integration Technologies Team > email : [email protected] > Phone : +94 777 775 729 > > > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > [email protected] > http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev > > -- Supun Kamburugamuva Member, Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org E-mail: [email protected] <[email protected]>; Mobile: +94 77 431 3585 Blog: http://supunk.blogspot.com
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