On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 4:45 AM, Subash Chaturanga <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 4:25 AM, Samisa Abeysinghe <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Looking at these use cases, I would imagine that we have to have an LC
>> like listing of RXT types under config tab, rather than having them listed
>> individually in there - in other words, one-stop-shop view to help with
>> these actions.
>>
>
> If I am not mistaken you mean a LC like listing under Home > Extensions >
> Configure > Lifecycles ? If so that is the intended implementation
> (i.e  Home > Extensions > Configure > Artifact Types).
>

+1



> Anyway we will have the RXT configurations individually listed under
>  Home > Configure.
>

If we have the above, would we still need this?



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>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 11:21 PM, Senaka Fernando <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Subash,
>>>
>>> Hold on, there are multiple angles to this. You've just pointed out one,
>>> but there are several other things one might try to do. For example,
>>>
>>> 1. someone might want to create a copy from an existing RXT and create a
>>> new one. Some people actually do this even today. For them, edit is not
>>> required, but being able to view the existing RXT is. (note: in the LC UI,
>>> view and edit are both a single interface).
>>>
>>> 2. another user might try to make changes to the columns in a list UI,
>>> but not actually change the layout of the add/edit view. Asking someone to
>>> delete and add again is not the best answer.
>>>
>>> So, for #1, view is required and for #2 a partial edit is required. We
>>> also have a #3, which Eranda pointed out (i.e. being able to reconfigure
>>> the layout of the add/edit view). #3 can actually be done through the
>>> configure UI, but one could ask, why don't we have a complete edit instead
>>> of a partial edit, and get rid of the separate configure UI. This would
>>> make services and RXTs inconsistent, but then again, we can convert service
>>> to be represented using an RXT too.
>>>
>>> So, I'd like to suggest that we reconsider this decision and understand
>>> the problem end-to-end and find a proper lasting solution, without
>>> attempting a quick fix.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Senaka.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 10:24 PM, Eranda Sooriyabandara 
>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Subash,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 9:18 PM, Subash Chaturanga <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> This is regarding when GReg provides a UI to upload RXTs and also list
>>>>> them. Shall we have $subject ? Because if we provide edit options for an
>>>>> already installed RXT, once the RXT config is updated, already created RXT
>>>>> instances out of the old one becomes staled. And you cannot expect the new
>>>>> behavior from the old instances (users might not able to identify the old
>>>>> ones explicitly) . In that context I feel it is an invalid use case.
>>>>>
>>>>> This can be considered when we support development time governance.
>>>>> So shall we do $subject ?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> +1. Since we use have the validations for RXTs when uploading, we
>>>> should have the feeling that there are no error in the configuration. So I
>>>> guess there is no point in updating a RXT other than to do a content
>>>> (artifact content) change which can be done by changing the configuration
>>>> (Configure tab). So there are less or no usecase in changing the RXT.
>>>>
>>>> thanks
>>>> Eranda
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *Senaka Fernando*
>>> Member - Integration Technologies Management Committee;
>>> Technical Lead; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.com*
>>> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://apache.org
>>>
>>> E-mail: senaka AT wso2.com
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>>>
>>> *Lean . Enterprise . Middleware
>>>
>>>  Thanks,
>> Samisa...
>>
>> Samisa Abeysinghe
>> VP Engineering
>> WSO2 Inc.
>> http://wso2.com
>> http://wso2.org
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
> Subash Chaturanga
> Software Engineer
> WSO2 Inc. http://wso2.com
>
> email - [email protected]
> phone - 077 2225922
>
>  Thanks,
Samisa...

Samisa Abeysinghe
VP Engineering
WSO2 Inc.
http://wso2.com
http://wso2.org
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