Shakar,
All these are available on packs.

Problems
- we now have 8 L1s, 26 L2s
- QA was running low on resources, so only one engineer was available for
last 2+ weeks
- So QA wants to test more


On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Selvaratnam Uthaiyashankar <[email protected]
> wrote:

> Hi Sumedha,
>
> Yes, thats all fine. I am asking when we will get the pack with all these
> features/ changes done. Meaning the proper alpha with features frozen. If
> we still don't know that date, it is also fine, but we can plan the QA
> based on that.
>
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Sumedha Rubasinghe <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Selvaratnam Uthaiyashankar <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Sumedha, Dinusha,
>>>
>>> When do we have the alpha release with feature frozen?
>>>
>>
>> Hi Shankar,
>> We did alpha on 23rd Dec 2014. (http://builder1.us1.wso2.org/~appm/
>> lists out all public packs we have hosted).
>>
>> Then Isabelle & Chris used this alpha pack to do a series of partner
>> briefings.
>>
>> After these briefings we got feedback to improve following areas:
>> 1. App Publishing flow is too lengthy for a newbie
>> 2. App Policy Mgt should be separated out from App Publishing (thread:
>> [APPM] [IS] Change of XACML based authorization)
>> 3. Make graphs more aesthetic
>> 4. Improve first timers experience better by adding a sample app deployer
>> (thread: dev: App Manager sample deployer)
>>
>> We also discovered following:
>> - We only support EMM 1.0. So need to add support for both EMM 1.0.0 &
>> MDM 2.0.0  ("thread: [Architecture] [CDM] [AppM] Moving CDM (EMM) App
>> Management feature to App Manager)
>>
>> - ES only supports permission check for login only. So we had to
>> implement permission model on top of ES (thread : Life Cycles transition
>> for Apps in APPM)
>>
>> Apart from this RuwanA finished his project on App Discovery (thread:
>> [Architecture] [AppM][AppFactory][AS] AppM Discovery of WebApps from AS)
>>
>>
>> So after the alpha on 23rd of December, above are the changes we
>> introduced apart from fixing issues reported.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Yasassri Ratnayake <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> This is to update the Latest progress on App Manager Release testing.
>>>> Currently there are following blockers and critical issues. IMHO these need
>>>> to be fixed before the release.
>>>>
>>>>    - Oracle DB script related issues.
>>>>    - BAM toolbox issues/ Stats related issues
>>>>    - Single Logout
>>>>    - BPS integration issues. (Was Fixed with the latest pack (5th
>>>>    April Pack), yet to verify the fix)
>>>>    - Session Related issues. etc.
>>>>
>>>> Some of these issues are listed from [1] - [9]. In total(Open,
>>>> Reopened, In Progress issues) there are 38 L1 and L2 isuues, 95 L3 issues
>>>> and 15 L4 & L5 issues.
>>>>
>>>> Along the way we faced several challenges when testing APP-M apart from
>>>> the blocking issues we faced, following new features were added
>>>>
>>>>    - App Discovery
>>>>    - New Stats pages
>>>>    - Sample Deploying feature
>>>>
>>>> Some features also got changed
>>>>
>>>>    - EMM integration
>>>>    - XACML policy UI etc.
>>>>
>>>> There were some configuration level changes in web-apps as well as in
>>>> app-manager.xml/ user-mgt.xml which affected the Automation process. Lack
>>>> of documentation was another issue we faced.
>>>>
>>>> Currently we are in the process of testing untested areas and bug fixed
>>>> scenarios. Due to above mentioned issues IMHO I highly doubt whether we can
>>>> do a proper round of testing before the planned release date.
>>>>
>>>> [1] - https://wso2.org/jira/browse/APPM-718
>>>> [2] - https://wso2.org/jira/browse/APPM-715
>>>> [3] - https://wso2.org/jira/browse/APPM-686
>>>> [4] - https://wso2.org/jira/browse/APPM-651
>>>> [5] - https://wso2.org/jira/browse/APPM-481
>>>> [6] - https://wso2.org/jira/browse/APPM-324
>>>> [7] - https://wso2.org/jira/browse/APPM-511
>>>> [8] - https://wso2.org/jira/browse/APPM-544
>>>> [9] - https://wso2.org/jira/browse/APPM-639
>>>>
>>>> With Regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 2:18 PM, Dinusha Senanayaka <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Yasassri,
>>>>>
>>>>> Please find the latest pack in [1]. We could find root cause for some
>>>>> of the intermittent issues that you have reported. But we included some
>>>>> debug logs to possible places, so that we can narrow down the issue if it
>>>>> appeared on latest pack too. Please enable jaggery debug logs before you
>>>>> start testing the pack.
>>>>>
>>>>> [1]. http://builder1.us1.wso2.org/~appm/19-03-2015/
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Dinusha.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Yasassri Ratnayake <[email protected]
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Meeting Notes
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    - AM team will try to fix all the issues related to instability
>>>>>>    and share a new pack tomorrow.
>>>>>>    - Testing on oracle will be done based on the time available
>>>>>>    before the expected release date.
>>>>>>    - Long running test has to be run by the QA team. (on a
>>>>>>    standalone setup)
>>>>>>    - All features and UI's are currently finalized and no major
>>>>>>    changes will happen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 6:14 PM, Yasassri Ratnayake <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Dinusha,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry for the ambiguity in the mail. Please see my comments in-line
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is to update the current status of the App Manger release
>>>>>>>>> cycle.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We had issues initially when testing due to following reasons
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    - There was no decided permission model embedded to AM.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is finalized and we are not going to change the model ! There
>>>>>>>> is a mail thread for this even !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is an issue we had before March 6th pack, As mentioned the
>>>>>>> permission model is finalized ATM.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    - UI got changed along the way
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There were some usability improvements done after reviewing with
>>>>>>>> UX team.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    - Features were not finalized.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What you mean by features are not finalized ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Along the way there were some new features added, these were issues
>>>>>>> we faced initially when we started testing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. Allow annonymous access
>>>>>>> 2. Skip Creating Proxying WebApp
>>>>>>> 3. New Dashboard was added to add Policies etc.
>>>>>>> 4. Policy groups
>>>>>>> 5. New statistical graphs/options, completely reverted statistics
>>>>>>> page
>>>>>>> 6. Notification on App Rejection etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now, I believe all the features are finalized.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Current Status*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ATM the latest pack is unstable so we are not testing the pack in
>>>>>>>>> the clustered setup, hence we are doing our tests in a standalone 
>>>>>>>>> setup.
>>>>>>>>> And still the workflow process is not finalized.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> AFAIK, there is a tenant specific issue relate to life-cycle
>>>>>>>> loading. But, even with that we can continue super tenant scenarios in 
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> cluster environment. Workflow process is not finalized ???
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm claiming the instability based on these observation, irregular
>>>>>>> behavior in some functions, Exceptions thrown intermittently, I have
>>>>>>> reported most of them. [1] - [7]. These are all intermittent exceptions
>>>>>>> that I observe when going through the general flow. The stability has
>>>>>>> improved lot in the later packs, but there are some glitches which 
>>>>>>> needs to
>>>>>>> be investigated further.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have raised concerns regarding the workflow issue in the thread 
>>>>>>> "[APP-M]
>>>>>>> Workflows in App Manager".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1] - https://wso2.org/jira/browse/APPM-545
>>>>>>> [2] - https://wso2.org/jira/browse/APPM-554
>>>>>>> [3] - https://wso2.org/jira/browse/APPM-563
>>>>>>> [4] - https://wso2.org/jira/browse/APPM-491
>>>>>>> [5] - https://wso2.org/jira/browse/APPM-490
>>>>>>> [6] - https://wso2.org/jira/browse/APPM-439
>>>>>>> [7] - https://wso2.org/jira/browse/APPM-324
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With Regards
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Yasassri Ratnayake
>>>>>>> Software Engineer - QA
>>>>>>> WSO2 Inc ; http://wso2.com
>>>>>>> lean.enterprise.middleware
>>>>>>> *Mobile : +94715933168 <%2B94715933168>*
>>>>>>> *Blog : http://yasassriratnayake.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>> <http://yasassriratnayake.blogspot.com/>*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Yasassri Ratnayake
>>>>>> Software Engineer - QA
>>>>>> WSO2 Inc ; http://wso2.com
>>>>>> lean.enterprise.middleware
>>>>>> *Mobile : +94715933168 <%2B94715933168>*
>>>>>> *Blog : http://yasassriratnayake.blogspot.com/
>>>>>> <http://yasassriratnayake.blogspot.com/>*
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Dinusha Dilrukshi
>>>>> Senior Software Engineer
>>>>> WSO2 Inc.: http://wso2.com/
>>>>> Mobile: +94725255071
>>>>> Blog: http://dinushasblog.blogspot.com/
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Yasassri Ratnayake
>>>> Software Engineer - QA
>>>> WSO2 Inc ; http://wso2.com
>>>> lean.enterprise.middleware
>>>> *Mobile : +94715933168 <%2B94715933168>*
>>>> *Blog : http://yasassriratnayake.blogspot.com/
>>>> <http://yasassriratnayake.blogspot.com/>*
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> S.Uthaiyashankar
>>> VP Engineering
>>> WSO2 Inc.
>>> http://wso2.com/ - "lean . enterprise . middleware"
>>>
>>> Phone: +94 714897591
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> /sumedha
>> m: +94 773017743
>> b :  bit.ly/sumedha
>>
>
>
>
> --
> S.Uthaiyashankar
> VP Engineering
> WSO2 Inc.
> http://wso2.com/ - "lean . enterprise . middleware"
>
> Phone: +94 714897591
>



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