Hi Prabath,

We have upgraded from kernel 4.4.0 to 4.4.1 with the ESB 4.9.0 Beta
release. We were using 4.4.0 up until Alpha release and we have upgraded
carbon-mediation, wso2-axis2-transports and product-esb to use kernel 4.4.1
with Beta release. We haven't encountered any issue after upgrading into
4.4.1. Your arguments might be correct. But I think you can give it a try
to upgrade your components to kernel 4.4.1. I am suggesting this to you
from the experience we gained from ESB beta release.


Thanks,
Chanaka



On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 8:50 AM, Prabath Abeysekera <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi Dinusha,
>
> Thanks for taking time to help us with this. Please find my comments
> inline.
>
> On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 11:38 PM, Dinusha Senanayaka <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi MDM Team,
>>
>> Initial plan was to release AppM-1.1.0 release based on carbon-4.4.0. But
>> due to some issues in the synapse version released with carbon-4.4.0, we need
>> to move to Synapse 2.1.3.wso2v6 which will be released with ESB 4.9.0. For
>> that the the carbon.meadiation.feature should be 4.4.3 which eventually
>> depends on carbon 4.4.1. And there are some registry related issues that
>> fixed in carbon-4.4.1. Because of these reasons we have to move AppM
>> release to carbon-4.4.1.
>>
>> Since you guys need AppM mobile features to be included into MDM, you
>> have two options here,
>> 1. Move MDM release also into carbon-4.4.1
>>
>
> The team can surely consider going for this option, but, only as the last
> resort. We'd already released a number of milestones upon Carbon 4.4.0, so
> if we're forced to upgrade everything to use Carbon 4.4.1 (In other words,
> adapting a "new" kernel release) just to fix a bug in one of the dependent
> components, approaching EMM 2.0.0 Alpha in less than a month, then there's
> a problem in the system that needs to be fixed. I do understand the fact
> that the release number (i.e. 4.4.1) suggests that it is a patch release,
> so, unlikely that there'd by any API changes, etc around. Therefore, one
> might think it is a straight forward task to upgrade all "device-mgt"
> components to use the latest version of Carbon kernel. However,
> unfortunately, it's not only about device-mgt related components, but quite
> a few other stuff as well. In other words, there should be quite a few
> other components that depend on 4.4.0, which would need to be upgraded as
> well. I wouldn't take that risk to upgrade them all at this stage of the
> release, just to get an issue fixed in one of the components.
>
>
>> 2. Since MDM doesn't require AppM gateway features, we could create a
>> separate branch for you only with store/publisher/mobile features based on
>> carbon-4.4.0 and you have to maintain the branch. (AppM master is still
>> based on carbon-4.4.0, we could create this branch before we upgrade it to
>> carbon-4.4.1)
>>
>
> AFAIK, the process demands us to release all components maintained in a
> particular repository at once. So, I don't quite think releasing individual
> components is possible. On the other hand, this just appears to be a "patch
> solution", which doesn't seem scale well going forward.
>
> Also, I'm a little concerned by the statement, "*based on carbon-4.4.0
> and you have to maintain the branch*". Why would some other team
> "maintain" app-mgt source branches? If this is about fixing bugs, etc that
> the EMM team comes across while adapting app-mgt related components, we
> ourselves would anyway go for it as time permits. However, creating some
> branch and asking other teams to "maintain" the same is against collaborate
> development, IMO. If you create a new version of the components, that will
> at some point be used by the "whole platform". So, asking some other team
> to "maintain" the components owned by your team, as you can obviously see,
> does not seem to scale.
>
> With all the above considered, I'm suggesting the following, which I think
> is the best option.
>
> * Update "carbon.mediation.feature" to use "2.1.3.wso2v6" and make its
> version something like "4.5.*" (ESB team can probably decide on a proper
> version number if what's suggested doesn't appear to be good). The idea is,
> even though 4.4.1 appears to be a patch release of Carbon 4.4.0, it has to
> be a big deal for a component to adapt to a new kernel version. Also, IMO,
> each and every component should let us have enough room to fix bugs of an
> already released version that depends on the Kernel version it was
> originally released upon.
>
> * Next, create a new version of "carbon.mediation.feature", which depends
> on Carbon 4.4.0 and upgrade its synapse version to be "2.1.3.wso2v6".
> This is what needs to be used by the app-mgt components.
>
> * Get the app-mgt repo released so that the EMM can then adapt all
> required components on top of Carbon Kernel 4.4.0.
>
>
> Please do let me know if you think it's going to be challenging to get the
> above to work, or if you need further clarifications.
>
> Cheers,
> Prabath
>
>
>>
>> Let us know the preferred option for MDM release.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dinusha.
>>
>> --
>> Dinusha Dilrukshi
>> Associate Technical Lead
>> WSO2 Inc.: http://wso2.com/
>> Mobile: +94725255071
>> Blog: http://dinushasblog.blogspot.com/
>>
>
>
>
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> Technical Lead
> WSO2 Inc.
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