Thanks Johann.
So I think it makes sense not to use AuthenticationAdmin as an example in a
doc when we are discussing about generic admin services, where admin users
get authenticated and perform tasks.

@Doc team,
Could you please change [1] with a different admin service example. Created
[2] to track the issue.

[1]  https://docs.wso2.com/display/IS530/Calling+Admin+Services
[2] https://wso2.org/jira/browse/DOCUMENTATION-6191

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 3:56 PM, Johann Nallathamby <[email protected]> wrote:

> By definition admin services are services that require authentication and
> authorization. This is the parameter you find in the services.xml of the
> service. If that is set to false then it is not an admin service.
> AuthenticationAdmin is the service to do authentication. So obviously you
> can't have authentication and authorization for it.
>
> However it is also common parlance to refer to services that are shipped
> with the product for management console usage, as administrative services,
> which should not be confused with admin service parameter in services.xml.
>
> Therefore although AuthenticationAdmin service can be called an
> administrative service because we use it primarily to authenticate users to
> carbon management console, and for other application authentication we have
> SCIM /me endpoint and OIDC /userinfo, technically it is not an admin
> service in services.xml terminology because it doesn't require
> authentication and authorization.
>
> Hope that clarifies.
>
> Regards,
> Johann.
>
> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 11:57 AM, Nuwandi Wickramasinghe <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Noticed $subject while reviewing [1]. In services.xml
>> for AuthenticationAdmin, adminservice parameter is set to false ([2]). Any
>> specific reason for this?
>>
>> However in doc link [3] (step 8th point under *Discovering the admin
>> services*), we have given AuthenticationAdmin as an example for an admin
>> service. If we are not keeping AuthenticationAdmin as an admin service,
>> need to change the document.
>>
>> [1] https://wso2.org/jira/browse/IDENTITY-6782
>> [2] https://github.com/wso2/carbon-kernel/blob/ddf7da2559d5c
>> c709ed14965f04dd0e00ca51c0d/core/org.wso2.carbon.core.servic
>> es/src/main/resources/META-INF/services.xml#L49-L49
>> [3] https://docs.wso2.com/display/IS530/Calling+Admin+Services
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
>> Software Engineer
>>
>> WSO2 Inc.
>>
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>>
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>>
>
>
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>
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