It seems -Dsetup is broken in some products, the correct action should be get rid of this non-production feature instead of fixing. Going forward we will remove relevant doc content from IS 5.0.0 and will try to remove code from next release.
Thanks ! On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Isuru Perera <isu...@wso2.com> wrote: > Hi Sameera, > > Thanks for confirming! > > So, the products also should not try to implement this feature. (This is > what I wanted to confirm. Not just implementing -Dsetup support in C5). > > On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 1:24 PM, Sameera Jayasoma <same...@wso2.com> wrote: > >> Hi Isuru, >> >> As I've explained earlier. We will not implement -Dsetup support in C5. >> >> Thanks, >> Sameera. >> >> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 1:11 PM, Isuru Perera <isu...@wso2.com> wrote: >> >>> Yes. -Dsetup is easier, but let's avoid setting up database from the >>> server. In Wiki, we can give instructions on setting up databases for each >>> vendor. >>> >>> Carbon Team, could you please let us know your conclusion on this? >>> >>> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Isuru Haththotuwa <isu...@wso2.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Sagara, >>>> >>>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 5:31 PM, Sagara Gunathunga <sag...@wso2.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 4:21 PM, Isuru Perera <isu...@wso2.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Sameera, >>>>>> >>>>>> As Thilini mentioned, most of the products need a database to keep >>>>>> data. With -Dsetup we could execute scripts based on the vendor. We need >>>>>> some way of setting up the database in C5 as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm sorry I couldn't create a JIRA for $subject yet. >>>>>> >>>>>> In C5, what is the recommended way to setup a database (by creating >>>>>> required tables) for a WSO2 product? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Thilini Cooray <thili...@wso2.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In many of our carbon 4.x.x based products, we use -Dsetup option >>>>>>> allowing users to create databases on their preferred vendor (instead of >>>>>>> our inbuilt H2 database). >>>>>>> Without this option, users will have to run database scripts against >>>>>>> each of the databases by themselves prior to server startup. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Therefor I think it is a useful option to have in C5. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> I'm -1 to include this option into C5 products due to following >>>>> reasons. >>>>> >>>>> 1.) This option available with C4 product is just a demoware only, >>>>> nobody use this option to populate databases in production systems. >>>>> Recommended practise for production environments is DB admin/team >>>>> populate >>>>> databases manually and create user with limited privileges so that >>>>> applications use this limited-privileged user to access the database >>>>> server. >>>>> >>>> >>>>> 2.) In production systems, those admin rights are not anyway assign to >>>>> generic users hence not usable feature even if we include this option it >>>>> will use for demos only. Also previously we found some lazy practises >>>>> where >>>>> developer assumed DB user always got admin rights and try to perform DB >>>>> admin tasks through our Java codes[1]. >>>>> >>>>> 3.) Having this option in production systems increase security risks. >>>>> >>>> Fully agreed that this should not be the recommended method for >>>> creating DB tables in production environments. However IMHO the ease of >>>> trying out/demonstrating is very important. >>>> >>>> As an example scenario, we are focusing more and more on making wso2 >>>> products container friendly and easy to try out. A user trying out a >>>> distributed deployment deployment on a containerized environment (docker, >>>> kubernetes, etc.) will expect to deploy it with minimal steps: start a >>>> mysql container and start the products pointing to the mysql container. If >>>> a method similar to -Dsetup is available, it will make the life of the user >>>> much easier, rather than having to run the DB scripts manually. >>>> >>>> >>>> [1] - "TrustedIdPDBInitializer Class should not create any tables, >>>> indexes when -Dsetup is not given" >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks ! >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Sameera Jayasoma <same...@wso2.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Isuru, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can you explain the need to have a -Dsetup option? Can we simply >>>>>>> remove this in C5? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Sameera. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 1:45 PM, Isuru Perera <isu...@wso2.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In Carbon 4.x.x, we extend [1] >>>>>>>> org.wso2.carbon.utils.dbcreator.DatabaseCreator >>>>>>>> [2]. How can we do the same in Carbon 5? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [1] https://github.com/search?l=&q=DatabaseCreator++user% >>>>>>>> 3Awso2&ref=advsearch&type=Code&utf8=%E2%9C%93 >>>>>>>> [2] https://github.com/wso2/carbon-kernel/blob/4.4.x/core/ >>>>>>>> org.wso2.carbon.utils/src/main/java/org/wso2/carbon/ >>>>>>>> utils/dbcreator/DatabaseCreator.java >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Isuru Perera >>>>>>>> Associate Technical Lead | WSO2, Inc. | http://wso2.com/ >>>>>>>> Lean . Enterprise . Middleware >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> about.me/chrishantha >>>>>>>> Contact: +IsuruPereraWSO2 >>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/+IsuruPereraWSO2/about> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Dev mailing list >>>>>>>> Dev@wso2.org >>>>>>>> http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Sameera Jayasoma, >>>>>>> Software Architect, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> WSO2, Inc. (http://wso2.com) >>>>>>> email: same...@wso2.com >>>>>>> blog: http://blog.sameera.org >>>>>>> twitter: https://twitter.com/sameerajayasoma >>>>>>> flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sameera-jayasoma/collections >>>>>>> Mobile: 0094776364456 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lean . Enterprise . 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