Summary of votes so far: 1 for retiring 1 for keeping the project going
This wasn't strictly following the Apache voting guidelines, having a read of them. However, unless anyone else would like to add to the discussion or cast their vote (I'll check back on Sunday), we currently have a tie here. With regard to keeping the project going, I would like to have a bit more discussion about that. What does the "status quo" keep things as they are option actually mean, in the absence of any active maintenance? I'm not very happy with that situation because of how misleading this is to end users. The primary reason of suggesting the move to the Attic is to clearly indicate that the project is unmaintained. It can always be resurrected in the future if there is a demand for it. But after the "reboot" of the PMC, how much work has concretely been done by anyone except for myself? If you look at the codebase, the answer is nothing at all. Nothing has been contributed at all. The project is dead. When I leave it will live on as a zombie, but will be in practice completely unmaintained. I would very much like for us to be able to come to a definitive consensus here which is realistic about the prospects for this project, but that will require some active participation from the current PMC and any other participants for it to be possible. Kind regards, Roger From: Roger Leigh <rle...@codelibre.net> Sent: 07 October 2022 13:19 To: dev@xalan.apache.org; c-us...@xalan.apache.org Subject: [VOTE] Moving Xalan-C to the Attic Dear all, It's been over three months since my original email on this subject. There is a related discussion about this on the Xerces-C++ mailing list just now, and it would be useful to reach a conclusion on this for Xalan-C as well. I've updated the git statistics I did earlier in the year, which can be viewed or downloaded here: [?xerces-xalan-git-monthly.xlsx icon] xerces-xalan-git-monthly.xlsx<https://codelibreconsulting.sharepoint.com/:x:/s/Opensourcesoftware/EabAzxgzU3pCjUSKSVvWjZgBlUGZUb91q2PVMkGk1oaIHw?e=MVBvPA>. There are no changes-there has not been a single commit to the source repository since 2021. There has not been any change to the maintenance status of the project since my last email: there are no active maintainers, no one has shown any interest in doing any maintenance, and none of the previous maintainers who are still present actually use Xalan any longer-so there is little prospect of previously active maintainers returning. I myself will be leaving the project once this question is answered irrespective of the outcome-I no longer use Xalan-C, I have no time to commit to it for future work and releases, I just want to see it retired gracefully so that we don't leave anyone with the mistaken impression that this is a project which is active and well supported when it is most certainly not. This is not a library which new projects should be considering to use. This is the commit history since 01 Oct 2012: $ git shortlog -s --oneline --all --since "01 OCT 2012" 1 Benjamin Beasley 1 Bill Blough 1 Biswapriyo Nath 1 Kvarec Lezki 182 Roger Leigh 29 Steven J. Hathaway I would like for the PMC to vote on the future of the project. Do we 1. Retire the project to the Attic 2. Keep the project going I'm not sure if I'm formally a PMC member or not, but realistically I'm the only one who has done any work on the project for the past 8 years. So if I can vote on this I'll vote for (a).