Summary of votes so far:

1 for retiring
1 for keeping the project going

This wasn't strictly following the Apache voting guidelines, having a read of 
them.  However, unless anyone else would like to add to the discussion or cast 
their vote (I'll check back on Sunday), we currently have a tie here.

With regard to keeping the project going, I would like to have a bit more 
discussion about that.  What does the "status quo" keep things as they are 
option actually mean, in the absence of any active maintenance?  I'm not very 
happy with that situation because of how misleading this is to end users.  The 
primary reason of suggesting the move to the Attic is to clearly indicate that 
the project is unmaintained.  It can always be resurrected in the future if 
there is a demand for it.  But after the "reboot" of the PMC, how much work has 
concretely been done by anyone except for myself?  If you look at the codebase, 
the answer is nothing at all.  Nothing has been contributed at all.  The 
project is dead.  When I leave it will live on as a zombie, but will be in 
practice completely unmaintained.  I would very much like for us to be able to 
come to a definitive consensus here which is realistic about the prospects for 
this project, but that will require some active participation from the current 
PMC and any other participants for it to be possible.

Kind regards,
Roger

From: Roger Leigh <rle...@codelibre.net>
Sent: 07 October 2022 13:19
To: dev@xalan.apache.org; c-us...@xalan.apache.org
Subject: [VOTE] Moving Xalan-C to the Attic

Dear all,


It's been over three months since my original email on this subject.  There is 
a related discussion about this on the Xerces-C++ mailing list just now, and it 
would be useful to reach a conclusion on this for Xalan-C as well.


I've updated the git statistics I did earlier in the year, which can be viewed 
or downloaded here: [?xerces-xalan-git-monthly.xlsx icon]  
xerces-xalan-git-monthly.xlsx<https://codelibreconsulting.sharepoint.com/:x:/s/Opensourcesoftware/EabAzxgzU3pCjUSKSVvWjZgBlUGZUb91q2PVMkGk1oaIHw?e=MVBvPA>.
  There are no changes-there has not been a single commit to the source 
repository since 2021.  There has not been any change to the maintenance status 
of the project since my last email: there are no active maintainers, no one has 
shown any interest in doing any maintenance, and none of the previous 
maintainers who are still present actually use Xalan any longer-so there is 
little prospect of previously active maintainers returning.  I myself will be 
leaving the project once this question is answered irrespective of the 
outcome-I no longer use Xalan-C, I have no time to commit to it for future work 
and releases, I just want to see it retired gracefully so that we don't leave 
anyone with the mistaken impression that this is a project which is active and 
well supported when it is most certainly not.  This is not a library which new 
projects should be considering to use.



This is the commit history since 01 Oct 2012:


$ git shortlog -s --oneline --all --since "01 OCT 2012"
     1  Benjamin Beasley
     1  Bill Blough
     1  Biswapriyo Nath
     1  Kvarec Lezki
   182  Roger Leigh
    29  Steven J. Hathaway



I would like for the PMC to vote on the future of the project.  Do we



  1.  Retire the project to the Attic
  2.  Keep the project going

I'm not sure if I'm formally a PMC member or not, but realistically I'm the 
only one who has done any work on the project for the past 8 years.  So if I 
can vote on this I'll vote for (a).

Reply via email to