Hi Radu, XML Commons External [1] maintains Apache-hosted sets of the SAX, DOM and JAXP APIs. The StAX API sources would join them in SVN [2].
Thanks. [1] http://xml.apache.org/commons/components/external/index.html [2] http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/xml/commons/trunk/java/external/ Michael Glavassevich XML Parser Development IBM Toronto Lab E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Radu Preotiuc-Pietro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 03/31/2006 06:29:09 PM: > Do you need to check them into your svn repository or a Maven > dependency, say, would be better? I would think in the later case, you > would just be using it the same way we do, which would be ok. But let's > find out, if we can do it quickly, if the current format is legal-wise > safe for your intended use. > > Radu > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Glavassevich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 12:10 PM > To: commons-dev@xml.apache.org > Cc: dev@xmlbeans.apache.org > Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL]: Upgrade XML Commons External to JAXP 1.4 > > Hi Radu, > > That is reassuring though I wonder if the source files in their current > form can be included in an ASF project. As Jeremias mentioned, none of > the source files have a license header on them. > > Thanks. > > Michael Glavassevich > XML Parser Development > IBM Toronto Lab > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "Radu Preotiuc-Pietro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 03/30/2006 04:43:32 PM: > > > Here's some info on this. > > > > The XmlBeans team (esp Lawrence, with his Apache hat on ;-) ) have > > worked with BEA (represented by the BEA legal team) to clarify the > > licensing status of jsr173 APIs. The jar that we have made available > > at > > http://www.apache.org/dist/java-repository/xmlbeans/jars/jsr173_1.0_ap > > i_ bundle.jar is totally legit, as provided by BEA, licensed under the > > > Apache License 2.0 and with no modifications on our part. It is NOT > > something that we just downloaded, changed a few things and commited. > > It's also been oked by Cliff (with his legal affairs hat on), see this > > > thread for details: > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/xmlbeans-dev/200510.mbox/%3c1 > > 13 [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > There are two points that are worth mentioning: > > 1. Is this .jar available from anywhere else other than the Apache > > address above? Answer: not that I know of; BEA has said that they are > > interested in making it available for download in a more "public" > > place, but this has not happened yet, I guess it's just a lack of > > leadership on their part, but we'll keep pinging them 2. Why is > > another .jar still available at dev.java.net with the same classes in > > it and different license? Answer: because of BEA's agreement with Sun > > on the JCP, they can't modify what's already there AFAIK. Cliff > > probably knows exactly what are the rules regarding code that > > companies decided to make available under Apache license which was > > previously licensed under different terms. > > > > So obviously each project has to decide for itself what to use and > > what not to use, but for XmlBeans we have taken the steps to ensure > > that what we use is completely within the legal constraints of the > ASF. > > > > Hope this helps, > > Radu > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Michael Glavassevich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 10:30 AM > > To: commons-dev@xml.apache.org > > Cc: dev@xmlbeans.apache.org > > Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL]: Upgrade XML Commons External to JAXP 1.4 > > > > Jeremias Maerki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 03/29/2006 02:08:32 > > AM: > > > > > (cc'ing dev@xmlbeans.apache.org) > > > > > > That's ok with me. The only thing bothering me is the XMLBeans' JAR > > > file with the API sources. It does not contain any indication > > > whether this is a clean-room reconstruction of the API sources based > > > > on the specification or if they have been taken from the java.net > > > site and modified. The files there seem to be distributed under the > > > CDDL [1] which is a Category B license (binary only). The sources at > > > > java.net [2] have Bea copyrights all over the place. Furthermore, I > > > can't find the StAX API sources anywhere in XMLBeans' repository. > > > The individual files in the API JAR do not contain the Apache > > > license header as would > > > > > be required by any source file published by the ASF (due to the > > > current policy). The good thing on the other side is that Bea seems > > > to > > > > > be the driving force behind XMLBeans and could officially donate the > > > > API sources to the ASF for inclusion into XML Commons Externals. And > > > > Cliff is XMLBeans' PMC chair. :-) So, before the API sources can be > > > included in XML Commons Externals a clarification will be necessary > > IMO. > > > > I agree. > > > > > [1] https://jaxp-sources.dev.java.net/source/browse/jaxp- > > > sources/jaxp-api/src/javax/xml/license.txt?rev=1. > > > 1&view=auto&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup > > > [2] https://jaxp-sources.dev.java.net/source/browse/jaxp- > > > sources/jaxp-api/src/javax/xml/stream/StreamFilter.java?rev=1. > > > 1&view=auto&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup > > > > > > On 29.03.2006 00:45:11 Michael Glavassevich wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > The Xerces developers (myself included) have started planning for > > > > a Xerces-J release which will add support for JAXP 1.4 [1][2]. > > > > JAXP > > > > 1.4 > > is a > > > > minor update to JAXP 1.3; the largest technical change being the > > addition > > > > of StAX (JSR 173) [3] and new Source/Result classes (see the > > > > javax.xml.transform.stax package) which can be used with > > > > transformers > > and > > > > validators. I believe Apache Harmony will eventually require JAXP > > > > 1.4 > > to > > > > complete an implementation of Java SE 6.0. Other Apache projects > > (Axis2, > > > > XMLBeans, etc...) are already using StAX. > > > > > > > > With the JAXP 1.4 specification nearing finalization I propose > > > > that > > the > > > > main trunk of XML Commons External be upgraded to JAXP 1.4 and a > > branch be > > > > created for maintenance of JAXP 1.3 (which is what is currently on > > > > > the > > > > > > main trunk). > > > > > > > > I noticed that a copy of the StAX API source is being distributed > > > > with > > > > > > XMLBeans here [4] (see jsr173_1.0_api_bundle.jar) and on Apache > > > > mirror > > > > > > sites. The source files contain Javadoc so it would be great if we > > could > > > > use them. The README contained in the jar states that the source > > > > and > > > > > > binary files are distributed under the Apache License 2.0, so it > > > > would > > > > > > appear to me that the source can be included [5] in XML Commons > > External. > > > > What do folks think? > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > [1] https://jaxp-sources.dev.java.net/nonav/docs/spec/html/ > > > > [2] https://jaxp-sources.dev.java.net/nonav/docs/api/ > > > > [3] http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=173 > > > > [4] http://www.apache.org/dist/java-repository/xmlbeans/jars/ > > > > [5] http://people.apache.org/~cliffs/3party.html#category-a > > > > > > > > Michael Glavassevich > > > > XML Parser Development > > > > IBM Toronto Lab > > > > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeremias Maerki > > > > Michael Glavassevich > > XML Parser Development > > IBM Toronto Lab > > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > _ > > Notice: This email message, together with any attachments, may > > contain information of BEA Systems, Inc., its subsidiaries and > > affiliated entities, that may be confidential, proprietary, > > copyrighted and/or legally privileged, and is intended solely for the > > > use of the individual or entity named in this message. 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