things that are in the attic is a situation we can probably improve
easily. I'm sure "look for jenkins jobs and remove them" just isn't
currently in the list of steps for attic onboarding.

I think you're correct about the advantages of project-specific infra
donations for this kind of stuff, but I don't think we have any leads
for ourselves currently?

On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 10:08 AM, Allen Wittenauer
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>         IMHO, most of the problems with ASF Jenkins come down to not having 
> anyone who actually manages it.
>
>         After looking over the list of jobs that infra shared, there’s a ton 
> of cleanup that really needs to happen.  The number of obviously abandoned 
> jobs but still configured in Jenkins is remarkably high.  (e.g., Whirr has 
> been in the attic for 3 years now...) Removing those jobs would speed up a 
> lot of things as well as remove a lot of the resource exhaustion.
>
>         I think BigTop got this correct. Many projects might be better off 
> with private Jenkins instances privately funded and managed, but shared with 
> their community.  When/if that community dies, so do those resources with 
> probably no real impact on the other Apache communities.  Plus it avoids the 
> obvious problems that the shared ASF resources clearly have.
>
>
>> On Apr 25, 2018, at 4:51 PM, Sean Busbey <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> looks like another build earlier that day on the same host hung for 12 hours:
>>
>> https://builds.apache.org/job/PreCommit-Admin/13059/
>>
>> Both jobs look to be failing during the jenkins git plugin due to
>> resource exhaustion. IIRC, that plugin is before the timeout starts
>> counting.
>>
>> I suspect if we switched this build over to either manually doing the
>> git actions in our job, or moved to the jenkins pipeline DSL we could
>> have the timeout handle git operations as well. Wouldn't really help
>> with having e.g. H32 be bad.
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 11:09 PM, 张铎(Duo Zhang) <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>> Seems to the wrong mailing-list...
>>>
>>> 2018-04-25 12:04 GMT+08:00 张铎(Duo Zhang) <[email protected]>:
>>>
>>>> https://builds.apache.org/job/PreCommit-Admin/13071/
>>>>
>>>> The machine was broken and we were stuck there for more than 4 hours until
>>>> I killed the task manully...
>>>>
>>>> There is a 5 minutes timeout for the job, it is strange that why it does
>>>> not work...
>>>>
>

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