Dear Han,

> From the TI documentation I understand that the CC2531 dongle uses the 
> CC2530 chip.
> TI now also offers a mini development kit 
> ($99,-):http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/CC2530ZDK-ZNP-MINI

we realized that the main differences between development kits 
(CC2530ZDK-ZNP-MINI vs CC2530 ZigBee Development Kit) are as follows:
1) the cost, as you can see from TI web site: CC2530ZDK-ZNP-MINI is 
cheaper than CC2530 ZigBee Development Kit)
2) the devices shipped with CC2530ZDK-ZNP-MINI doesn't allow to use ZCL 
(too much memory footprint), this aspect could be a limitation in case 
you are interested in developing for instance  Home Automation profile 
applications. Differently CC2530 ZigBee Development Kit contains much 
more devices which enable you to test and debug the installed ZB 
application that fully use all the ZB stack.
3 )In order to interact with USB dongle shipped with CC2530ZDK-ZNP-MINI 
you need Win32 driver, while CC2531 can be plugged and used (hopefully) 
also on Linux OS as it is recognized as a standard USB CDC class device.

So if you are strongly interested to develop ZBee device maybe  CC2530 
ZigBee Development Kit is the best solution.
We have got one of the first CC2530 ZDK  so you would be aligned with us.
Practically we need to write a new bundle for the CC2530ZNP API, Michele 
has already checked that at least the initial handshake with this new 
dongle is different from the old one.

Hope this info help you,
BRs,
FRancesco


> Il giorno 23/mar/2011, alle ore 11.21, Han Alink ha scritto:
>
>> Hello Michele,
>> From the TI documentation I understand that the CC2531 dongle uses 
>> the CC2530 chip.
>> TI now also offers a mini development kit 
>> ($99,-):http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/CC2530ZDK-ZNP-MINI
>> As I want to continue to put effort in Home Automation hard- and 
>> software, I am going to buy this development kit, unless you think 
>> this is not the right kit.
>> I downloaded your software, but running maven generates errors. This 
>> probably has to do with the OSGi environment not being installed. I 
>> have to look into this.
>> I also downloaded you?re the release including the OSGi environment; 
>> this one  is running, but lacks the dongle of course.
>> Kind regards,
>> Han Alink
>> *Van:*Michele Girolami [mailto:Michele.Girolami at isti.cnr.it]
>> *Verzonden:*maandag 21 maart 2011 18:50
>> *Aan:*Han Alink
>> *CC:*dev at zb4osgi.aaloa.org <mailto:dev at zb4osgi.aaloa.org>
>> *Onderwerp:*Re: [zb4osgi Dev] Next development steps - how to share 
>> experience
>> Hi Han,
>> I'm Michele and actually I'm also involved with the development 
>> activities related to ZBee devices.
>> TI offers the CC2531 USB evaluation Module Kit 
>> <http://focus.ti.com/docs/toolsw/folders/print/cc2531emk.html> for 
>> about 50? dollars, we had the chance to obtain one copy of it for 
>> free but only for research purposes. If you have intention to keep 
>> developing with TI development kit it could be an option, but please 
>> consider that you also need the license for the compiler in order to 
>> build existing/custom firmware (a 30-day free license can be easily 
>> obtained). Our intention is to replace the old and buggy CC2480 with 
>> the new CC2531 but, as Francesco said, we was planning to re-start 
>> around May. In this direction we are opened to different USB dongle 
>> that can be "easily" integrated with the stack, I don't know if you 
>> have some expertise with USB ZBee dongle...By googling we found 
>> different USB ZBee dongles, but we don't know about the necessary 
>> effort to provide a running and stable replacement for CC2480.
>> Moreover I've read that you also have some experiences with the Rapp 
>> driver, ZBee4OSGi actually exploits such a library (Here 
>> <http://zb4osgi.aaloa.org/redmine/attachments/36/ZigBee_Basedriver-_V2.pdf> 
>> you 
>> can have a perspective of all the bundles building the project, see 
>> slide n. 17 it is integrated within CC2480 Data Link Protocol Bundle) 
>> so if you've already experienced it could be a good starting point.
>> Best regards.
>> Il giorno 19/mar/2011, alle ore 13.19, Han Alink ha scritto:
>>
>>
>> Hello Francesco,
>> I have been working on Home Automation (hardware) development for 
>> several years (as a hobby). I have mainly developed hardware based on 
>> the X10 protocol (sensors, light controllers, modem ?).
>> In 2009 I bought a XBee development kit. I used the Java based 
>> drivers form Andrew Rapp (http://code.google.com/p/xbee-api/) on the 
>> PC side. I studied the ZCL documents from the Zigbee alliance and 
>> extended the Andrew Rapp driver with classes for the exchange of ZCL 
>> frames. On the other side, I used a PIC based design to receive and 
>> react to the ZCL frames.
>> As I?m not a programmer, I?m afraid I?m not able to come up with  
>> something that is fully compliant to the Home Automation profile. 
>> Another problem is the limitations of the XBee hardware platform. The 
>> hardware does hardly provide support for ZCL/ZDO messages; almost 
>> everything has to be handled by the PIC processor.
>> Recently I found your project website. I have not yet downloaded the 
>> software as I have a few questions. Hope you will answer them:
>> -The hardware you use is from Texas Instruments. You are probably 
>> aware of the fact that on the TI website, the CC2480 is not 
>> recommended for new designs. What device are you recommending now?
>> -Did you look into the XBee hardware?
>> -Did you develop a ZCL XML format/editor?
>> Kind regards,
>> Han Alink
>> The Netherlands
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