On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Laxman <[email protected]> wrote:
> Pat & Camille, Thanks for your response.
>
>> I don't think you need to touch the tickTime here. See "maxSessionTimeout"
>> here:
>> http://zookeeper.apache.org/doc/r3.3.3/zookeeperAdmin.html#sc_advancedConf
>> iguration
>> (hbase has a similar issue, that's why we added this feature initially).
>
> I've tried this maxSessionTimeout. This satisfies my customer's requirement.
> I also agree that, we still need to fix the GC issue. This has been
> discussed with our customer and "maxSessionTimeout" is provided to unblock
> them temporarily.
>
>>It does mean that if you
>> have clients writing directly to the ZK client (instead of through a
>> wrapper you provide), you need to encourage people not to use MAX_INT in
>> their default client setup unless they need the long timeout.
>
> This is clear and in fact we are using the session timeout value of 30
> seconds only for many use cases like Namenode HA.
>

That's true (see Camille's response, I missed highlighting this in my
response, but it's absolutely the case).

> Thanks again for your quick response.

NP. Good Luck.

Patrick



>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Fournier, Camille F. [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 11:48 PM
>> To: '[email protected]'; '[email protected]'
>> Subject: RE: Impacts of increasing ZooKeeper ticktime
>>
>> Session timeout is negotiated though eh? So if only the clients that need
>> the long GC session expiration time set their client session timeout to
>> MAX_INT, other clients can keep it at a lower number and not have a
>> problem. That's how we have resolved the issue. It does mean that if you
>> have clients writing directly to the ZK client (instead of through a
>> wrapper you provide), you need to encourage people not to use MAX_INT in
>> their default client setup unless they need the long timeout.
>>
>> C
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Patrick Hunt [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 1:44 PM
>> To: [email protected]; [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Impacts of increasing ZooKeeper ticktime
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 3:23 AM, Laxman <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Our customers are recently complaining about zookeeper client session
>> > timeouts.
>> >
>> > When analyzed its found that timeouts are due to heavy GC activity on
>> > Clients.
>> >
>> > So, they wanted to increase the session timeouts to 3 minutes which
>> requires
>> > the ticktime to be increased to atleast 9 seconds.
>> >
>>
>> I assume you've talked to them about fixing their gc issue at some
>> point? Rather than band-aiding it? :-)
>>
>> I don't think you need to touch the tickTime here. See "maxSessionTimeout"
>> here:
>> http://zookeeper.apache.org/doc/r3.3.3/zookeeperAdmin.html#sc_advancedConf
>> iguration
>> (hbase has a similar issue, that's why we added this feature initially).
>>
>> Really though they should fix the gc issue - setting the session
>> timeout higher means that their sessions will be expiring only after a
>> much longer time. Any reliance on this - such as for leader election
>> fail-over, will now take much more time. In your example it would take
>> 3 minutes for the other clients to notice when a client with the
>> particular session has become unavailable. Perhaps it doesn't matter
>> in your use case, but you are now likely to get complains about ZK not
>> being responsive. ;-)
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Patrick
>
>

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