On Aug 29, 2010, at 11:13 AM, Felipe Contreras wrote: >>> but now that you did, I feel compelled to reply the same way. >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 7:02 AM, Chris Forsythe <ch...@growl.info> wrote: >>>> On Aug 28, 2010, at 12:31 PM, Felipe Contreras wrote: >>>>> msn-pecan is a "fork" of libpurple's MSN plug-in in the same sense >>>>> that MariaDB is a fork of MySQL; the former comes from the original >>>>> author(s) due to the inability to contribute as wanted on the later. >>>> >>>> Was this portion really necessary? You've been told numerous times to >>>> stop, and while this is much better than previous emails, this whole >>>> paragraph could have been removed and no value would have been lost in >>>> this email. You don't even start the email out with what the email is >>>> about, you just go into the whole rehashing of why msn-pecan exists. I get >>>> it, you don't like something, but get over it. You have something good >>>> going here, but it's tainted by the continued perceived hatred you are >>>> eschewing. Please discontinue this practice, it's simply annoying and >>>> childish at this point. >>> >>> Many projects start their release announcements by explaining what the >>> project is. I'm simply doing the same. >> >> No you aren't. Those announcements do not get spammed to other mailing >> lists, they usually just go to the relevant project's mailing list. >
Ugh. Hit send too soon. Apologies for the double reply. I felt that Felipe's introduction was succinct and free of the vitriolic commentary characteristic of some previous communications. It is true that msn-pecan is a fork of the libpurple MSN plug-in, and it's also true that Felipe made this fork because he couldn't contribute "as wanted". This one-liner is reasonably useful information to someone not familiar with the projects - though I think more useful and even *less* emotional would be: msn-pecan is a "fork" of libpurple's MSN plug-in by its original author which exists to allow continued independent development that, for various reasons, will not be directly reintegrated into libpurple. Or something like that. I don't particularly care what the phrasing is as long as it doesn't bash Adium or libpurple developers, which Felipe's did not. I don't object to occasional emails to the Adium list on the subject as long as they don't devolve into another flame war -- which this wouldn't, left alone. I don't follow the msn-pecan list nor will I. It is interesting to see continued development there. Perhaps someone who knew nothing about it would, from such emails on our list, become interested in taking whatever improvements may be found in msn-pecan and making the effort to integrate them into libpurple's msn where many more people would benefit. That would, I think, be the best possible result, and on the off-chance that could happen I'm willing to spend a second glancing at and deleting the occasional release note. Less time than I spent typing this reply, certainly. -Evan
